Nov 7, 2009

America's Virgo Rising natal chart

Virgo rising chart of the United States of America, July 4, 1776 9:36 am LMT, Philadephia, Pennsylvania.

Master astrologer Marilyn Muir has written an excellent article My USA Chart of Choice which details the various natal charts of America and how she came to conclude that the USA's Virgo rising chart works best when timing events and in progressions, too.

As Marilyn points out, you'd think that with so many of our founders being Freemasons and possibly members of other secret societies, we'd have a definitive birth chart for America. But when you're traitors to the British crown, perhaps, as Marilyn notes, you may wish to keep a lot of things secret concerning your activities until things calm down.

Even our founders' diaries are on the sketchy side and disagree with one another on timing, plus the signing of the Declaration of Independence stretched out into August, unless I am mistaken. And these complexities apply if you prefer the traditional date of July 4 for America's establishment!

Aspects such as our national Mercury/Pluto opposition, the Sun/Pluto quindecile of obsession-compulsion, the Sun/Saturn and Mars/Neptune squares are still intact in the Virgo Asc chart, and I invite you to click the chart image to enlarge for a few basic details; Hour of Venus.

US charts for July 4, 1776 have the Moon (the people) at 18 to about 27 AQ and the Virgo rising chart is no exception. You can see the 'special task or purpose/critical situation' pattern, a YOD (Finger of God) pointing to we-the-people. An apex Moon in a YOD pattern indicates faulty assimilation of impressions that trigger self-defeating reactions and habits.

When well-managed, the apex Moon here describes a destined change or new path in life when past burdens can be laid to rest; basic needs of the populace may then be attended to, the rights and interests of the weaker among us can be defended, and aiding others to establish fundamental securities is pursued. (Tierney.)

Now if the American people can figure out how to defend our own interests against the politicians and other mafia-style operatives who sold America down the river years ago while giving the keys of our kingdom to foreigners with goals set against our own, we'll be sitting more prettily, if not as lucratively as before the world bankers had their greedy, fraudulent way with us.

For more of Marilyn Muir's brilliant insights you may wish to check out her book Presidents of Hope and Change.

5 comments:

Funkstar said...

Thanks for posting this, it's very timely. I have spent so many hours wading through US charts looking for which one works the best with transits. This would surely be the most annoying part of mundane astrology. The most influential country in the world and such confusion and so many arguments about which chart.

I do like the 04 July 1776 because of those aspects you mentioned, and because it is your national holiday, most important I have found for other national charts.

This Yod sounds very interesting...looks like a few more hours homework on this virgo rising chart!

jude cowell said...

Yes, Marilyn Muir has much more experience and has done the research so i intend to use the Virgo rising chart more often than before. We area critical bunch of Virgoan folk round here.

And since America's founders intended that July 4 be celebrated, the date must count for something so i agree with you there...when 'the people' became involved, if nothing else.

The natal YOD pointing to Moon/the people is intriguing. We had a YOD in the nation's Secondary Progressions during Bush's term pointing to Sec Mercury...must catch up on the Sec chart asap - more homework, as you say!

And Michael Munkasey gives Merc/Nep in Politics as 'leaders who mesmerize people with delusions of possible growth and progress' among other things. Well, yes. They do, don't they?

So thanks for commenting Funkstar, it's much appreciated! Jude

Candela said...

"Now if the American people can figure out how to defend our own interests against the politicians and other mafia-style operatives who sold America down the river years ago while giving the keys of our kingdom to foreigners with goals set against our own."

Interestingly, from my European point of view it seems "we foreigners" would have even more reason to feel victimized "you Americans" have. There really hasn't been any reason for your politicians to sell you out to us. After all, we are not voting for them. And if they were looking for the highest bidder, they definitely would have found one in the US...

Many things may be wrong in the US, as they are here in Europe. But I really hope that the Pluto in Capricorn will help us all see our role in the process (for instance, nobody forced large portions of the American people to live well beyond their means for decades) instead of just blaiming "the other".

jude cowell said...

Funny but i wasn't generally including Europeans in my statement as much as others with one exception - those who pretend to be European but are actually of Mongolian descent.

Agreed about the overindulgent American lifestyle of the last few decades. But the average American's affluence has more often been overblown by 'foreigners' and the media. The illusion that ours is a classless system is what's amazing - that they could keep that ball in the air for so long. i suppose it's the old 'maybe one day you too can be rich' unspoken promise that so seldom bears out to be the case.

Jude

unique_astrology said...

About a week and a half ago I was looking for an alternative time for July 4, 1776 chart and decided to check the Uranus culminating chart against 15 or 20 events in America's history.

The chart performed very well using progressions and I thought I might be onto something and would have to do further research.

Came here to read your blog and found this had already been done. Can put it on the back burner for awhile now.

Bob