Feb 2, 2010

Robert Welch: the internal destruction of America (video)

Robert Welch is an interesting character who in his day accused certain US presidents of being Communist agents or in league with them. Welch died in 1985. Wonder what he'd say about our more recent crop? Undermining and destroying America does seem to be on someone's to-do list, doesn't it?

And I have to say it's disturbing to read the above-linked Wiki article and find that Welch, founder of the John Birch Society, was saying similar things about the US government and the conspiratorial take-over that coup'd it by internal operatives of the Illuminati persuasion, as I and many others read and write about today.

Makes the US natal Sibly chart more...interesting...when you see our nation's 10th house Saturn in Libra and 9th house Neptune in Virgo in a loose snuggle around the Sibly Midheaven degree 00Lib53, knowing that secret (Neptune) government (Saturn) is but one of the meanings of the Saturn/Neptune combo, with 'Communism' being one of the others.

The last Great Conjunction/s of Saturn and Neptune was 3 times in 1989 in the range of 10 - 12 Capricorn. When transiting Pluto comes in range of those degrees we will have:

1989 Saturn/Neptune = tr Pluto: difficult growth; strong depression; feeling downtrodden; punishment for those who allowed decay and decadence to persist; new ideas on evolution which upset long-held but weaker historical theories; rejection of responsibility and denial of guilt from responsible people.
(Tyl; Ebertin; Munkasey.)

Hmm. Pluto must be in range of 1989's Saturn/Neptune already (a 5-degree orb is the usual, I think. The god of Hades draws near.)

However, during America's Communist-denying Truman-to-Eisenhower days there occurred a Great Conjunction of the Communism pair, also 3 times:

1. Nov 21, 1952 @ 22Lib47;
2. May 1, 1953 @ 22Lib39;
3. July 22, 1953 @ 21Lib12

Once transit Saturn moves on to late degrees of Libra, a trine will form between Saturn and Neptune just before Neptune enters Pisces in early Feb 2012. This will be a trine from within the 1989 Saturn/Neptune cycle (10 - 13 Cap which opposes US natal Sun), yet actually, tr Saturn will return to its 1952/53 degrees (as listed above) beginning in Oct 2011.

We may expect more such 1950s themes to resurface as the "red menace' (according to Welch its handmaidens have worked under the surface and behind the scenes for decades), continued Iranian-American issues - the US government propped up the Shah in Tehran under Saturn/Neptune's rays. Also in 1952, Eisenhower became president (by a reputed 'landslide'), the US bombed North Korea and exploded the first hydrogen bomb in the Pacific.

Some events of 1953: Egypt became a dictatorship, Stalin died, and in the US the Rosenbergs were executed for spying; huge floods hit England and the Netherlands, Hillary and Norgay scaled the heights of Mt. Everest a mere 3 days before the *coronation of Elizabeth II; in the US the first open heart surgery was performed, and a woman was impregnated with frozen sperm.

Born in 1953: Tony Blair, Benazir Bhutto, and Jean-Bertrand Aristide (former Haitian president.) My candidate for the 'frozen sperm' affair would be Mr. Blair.

In 1954: what was reputedly the first meeting of the Bilderberg Group was held May 29 - 31, 1954; racial segregation in US schools was ruled unconstitutional; the French government surrenders in Vietnam and falls as a result; the US Senate censures Joseph McCarthy (congressional mummery); the US drops a hydrogen bomb on Hiroshima (with Truman's finger on The Button); the first nuclear submarine is launched to do its dirty work.

Born in 1954: Oprah Winfrey, Reba McIntyre, Elvis Costello, and John Travolta.

Well, thanks for taking a nostalgic stroll down Saturn/Neptune Lane with me. They say 'you can't go home again' but that's moot because somehow, I think America never left the neighborhood and has been living there for many years under an assumed alias: "Democracy."


Many thanks to dProgram.net for supplying the video of Robert Welch.

*the current Solar Eclipse Series (Jan 15, 2010 @ 25Cap01) indicates a ceremony of some kind, perhaps a royal wedding or coronation - and Queen Elizabeth is getting rather long in the tooth. Of course, Nobel Prize ceremonies for US Presidents fulfill the eclipse imperative, too. jc


"There is almost no kind of outrage -- torture, imprisonment without trial, assassination, the bombing of civilians -- which does not change its moral color when it is committed by 'our' side. The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them." George Orwell


Anon said...

Last quote of George Orwell is absolutely true as it is the idea of that American sovreignty - as that of **many** other countires in the world! - has gradually been sold to supra-national powers...
All this is true but seems false for it is usually attached to some wrong sentimental impressions as it is the idea, by Alex Jones in particular way, that these forces want blood. Well, if necessary for their aim yes, if not, no.

The focus is on their agenda, their goal, not on being blood-thirsty. In other words, instead of opposing on the pln of ideas and model of society the opposition resolves in cndemnation: So opposition weakens itself.

We must oppose in the plan of ideas, on the level of models of society and patterns...
That is the Main Path, I think...

Anonymous said...

Undermining and destroying America does seem to be on someone's to-do list, doesn't it?

Considering how many high-level officials are dual-citizen Israelis, I do wonder. As Mike Rivero of What Really Happened notes, "No man can serve two masters." Imagine if it were Chinese or some other nationality being so deeply embedded in American government! Yet no one clutches their pearls over this particular nationality controlling us, and that's a huge mistake. They are NOT our friends, as the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty attack, and the Jonathan Pollard affair demonstrate.

Jude Cowell said...

Agreed! the pen is mightier! jude

clymela said...

Well, I have loved you and only occasionally have I disagreed usually over antisemitism and Israel but Robert Welch?I am a socialist and proud to be along with Bernie Sanders and the racist,sexist world that I grew up in.
He was right in one way-his age was dissolving under his racist,hating feet.Perhaps the ravening wolves more like Welch than he would want to understand.
Have you ever known any of the "Birchers"? When young I spent some time in Southern California and had the opportunity to know some. Their philosophy and outlook was enough to drive this "nigger lovin""bleeding heart"to the left where I remain although I have never "joined" any group because I fear groups of any leaning.

Jude Cowell said...

Hi Clymela, thanks for weighing in.

Not sure but i think you just mentioned 'antisemitism' in relation to me - if so, that's far from the truth here. i don't tend to clump any group together but go more on how people act and how they treat others. The Israeli gov has been coup'd by warmongers like the US has - they are the ones i grouse about, not the people of Israel.

As you know, we are exhorted to Pray for the Peace of Israel and i have and do - yet their elusive Peace is made impossible with the current crop of zionists in charge.

As Reagan said, government is the problem. would add, the wrong government is the problem - if left up to the people, Peace would ensue. Same here.

So! posting a video of Robert Welch was an odd thing to do and it felt weird for the reasons you cite. Yet it was uncanny how many things he says there are on the minds of many in 2010 - and for good reason.

If i've ever met or known a Bircher i was blissfully unaware of it! Jude