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Sep 10, 2010

Obama presser w/ his natal Neptune rising 9.10.10

Update 9.10.10: just read Paul Krugman's piece Things Could Be Worse which addresses the economic measures of the president as mentioned in his presser today, R v D tactics and what would happen if Rs take control in November midterms, and compares our financial crisis 2008 with Japan's response to their own financial crisis of the 1990s. A good read.

And if you missed it, here's a White House link to the president's text, the video, and a list of questions and answers.

Original post begins here:

Looking at the horoscope of this morning's presidential press conference scheduled for 11:00 am edt White House, the Ascendant degree 8Sco05 brings President Obama's natal Neptune 8:36 into view as the WHAT? point of the chart/presser.

Neptune in Scorpio describes a generation (1955/57 - 1970) when man's natural desires were exploited and when some people experienced spiritual regeneration. Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll met with emotional intensity, confusion, and clairyoyant abilities. Scorpio is a sign of money and big business as well as mystical explorations. Money and business issues are on tap today.

Neptune rising indicates much intuitive awareness of the environment and of the self in relation to others: this ASC and Mr. Obama's natal Neptune are trined by the Moon 18Lib47 in 12th house with Moon conjunct and reflecting US secondary progressed Mars Rx; '19 Libra' = "A Gang of Robbers in Hiding." (Jupiter or) Neptune near an ASC = the actor.

Will the president mention those who have robbed our Treasury? Or is he one of them? Will the cost of years of war and its dire effects upon our economy factor into his way forward? Depends on your political persuasion, I suppose, and whether Mr. Obama is a creature of Wall Street. Looking at the Goldman Sachs advisers around him, it's difficult to consider him independent of Wall Street interests.

At Mc, the WHY? point of the chart is 15Leo02 with Mr. Obama's natal Sun 12Leo33 just past; his natal Mercury 2Leo20 is in 9th house, along with the current Solar Eclipse degree 19Can24 (July 11, 2010: things at first seem worse, then clear with successful outcomes. Brady's Predictive Astrology.)

Sun 17Vir48 conjunct 11th cusp 17Vir49 has just barely moved into the More visible 10th house of Public Status and Career; Mercury, retrograde until 7:09 pm edt Sept 12, is in 10th house and has been crossing and will recross Mr. Obama's natal Pluto 6Vir59, a time when info and activities relate to the gaining of more personal power, finance and investment, organization and work methods, and self-discipline. Travel may be on the president's agenda and valuable information may be garnered.

Now today at 11:00 am is within a New Moon phase when things are being seeded but the way forward is not yet clear. Foggy Neptune rising may indicate some confusion in Scorpio concerns but with great acting talent as well.

The 5th house of Risk-Taking and Gambling contains the ongoing conjunction of Jupiter 29Pis49 Rx and Uranus 29:03 Rx, both backed into murky Pisces which oddly enough, is a sign related to the military. The fog of war and Jupiter/Neptune's tendency to speculate, one imagines.

8th cusp of Big Finances 6Gem59 has a trio just inside 8th house: transiting Pan 8Gem06 Rx (panic, pandemic, Pan-American, etc), US natal Uranus 8:55, and gold-loving Midas 9Gem02 Rx.

Asteroid Minerva (which I always relate to the Hegel Society because that's the title of its journal; Minerva = to be accomplished) comes in on the South Node 9Can20 which now nestles amongst our nation's natal Jupiter and Sun; asteroid Pandora, of curiosity and going beyond boundaries fame, conjoins US natal Jupiter 5Can56 in 8th house of Big Finance.

Venus 1Sco29 conjoins the natal Sun of the New World Order (Oct 24, 1992, Uranus/Neptune conjunction #3 of 3) and has left Mars 27Lib08 behind; both are in 12th house of karma and political backdoor deals.

Saturn 5Lib15 and determined Sisyphus are traveling together at the moment and begin the 11th hour today in 11th house of Hopes, Wishes, and Associations.

Pluto 2Cap48 Rx in 2nd house of Earning Ability and Values is still apex planet of the T-Square formed by Jupiter and Saturn's opposition (just barely within orb according to my Solar Fire software program)...Jup/Sat = Pluto: immense effort; separation; violent changes; restriction; unafraid of any trouble or work in order to attain desired aims slowly but surely (paraphrasing Ebertin.)

Pluto and NN continue closing in on one another as mentioned in a previous post and will join on Nov 9, 2010 with the Moon 3Cap36 at 3:13 pm est, DC. What occurs when the dragon Pluto joins its head (NN) and is triggered by the Moon, I don't know. I do know that Pluto/NN indicates the common destiny of a large mass of people (Ebertin.)

In 4th house of today's 11:00 am presser chart has Neptune 26AQ44 Rx and Chiron 27:31 Rx, still causing US natal Moon (the people) grief and loss. The spiritual level of Neptune/Chiron is the best use of this energy with Neptune as the vortex to the Divine and Chiron as the shaman and the Christ archetype that unites the heavenly with the earthly: spiritual rewards result.

There are several indications of victimization in the chart: Sun rises with Fixed Star Denebola (to go against society; out of the mainstream), Mercury rises with Zosma (the victim or the savior), and NN rises with Facies (ruthlessness or the victim; Brady's Fixed Stars.)

Asteroid Cupido (the family; the syndicate; corporations) 26Cap55 sits atop the Mc of the Inauguration 2009 chart and conjoins US natal Pluto 27Cap33; also at 27Cap33 is the veiling Dark Moon w'mat2, a point I use as an indicator of hidden things and/or depression. All of these fall in the 3rd house of Communications which also contains two interesting midpoints that are conjunct the presidential Sun on Jan 20: 00AQ+ (also Mercury Rx in Jan 2009 for Obama): Neptune/Pluto 29Cap46 (industrial titans, the resource plundering Robber Baron signature, esp the oil and gas industries) and Pluto/Chiron 00AQ09, the oppressive plutocracy duo.

Another interesting midpoint that involves public contact (such as a press conference) is Neptune/NN (illusions used with the public) which today conjoins Jupiter's position in the 2009 Inaugural chart...

Neptune/NN = Jupiter: laying oneself open to exploitation or the desire to exploit others; placing great hopes upon an association or partnereship; experiencing disappointments or disadvantages through other persons (Ebertin.)

Whew! Sounds to me like President Obama has another uphill battle to appeal to our better nature which includes our congenital American optimism. Let's check the applying aspects the presser chart's ruler/s to see how things might proceed...

Scorpio is ruled by Mars and co-ruled on a higher octave by manipulative Pluto:

Mars first applies to a trine with Chiron 0A24 indicating that this may be a great moment for President Obama to make a breakthrough or at least regain momentum in the debate with its 'lucky breaks' vibe (particularly with males ages 25 to 35, give or take a year or so.)

Next Mars applies to a probelematic quincunx (inconjunct; 150 degr) with Uranus (who describes those now behaving in a Piscean fashion before moving back to an Aries demeanor) which functions with originality yet acts under great pressure; there is an element of trying to prove something to others or to oneself with a hastiness factor; one must learn to act independently of others who challenge the way things are being done. One thinks of GOP challenges to Obama's policies on every score.

Third and last is Mars' conjunction to the Moon (8A21) which may indicate anger and/or activism on behalf of the people who may not hear of the topics and outcome of today's presser until later in the day (8:21 = 8 seconds, minutes, hours, days?)

Pluto makes two applying aspects: s sextile with Venus (1A19) and a trine with communicating Mercury (2A59.) Venus sextile Pluto has an ability to reconstitute old forms and may indicate help from Pluto with evaluations; motives of others are easily understood and compromise is required.

Mercury trine Pluto gives a deep understanding of cause and effect and excellent financial management skills; corporate finances are indicated as well as journalism and propaganda aiding the presidents through the helpful opportunities a trine (120 degr) provides.

So it's possible that the president's plutonic masters will be happier with his message and remarks today than the nation's Mars-stimulated people will. Activism will ensue.


there be typos: please pardon, will have to edit later because the president is speaking now...

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