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Mar 8, 2018

Carelli's Degrees: the natal Mercury of Donald Trump

If you're familiar with Adriano Carelli's book The 360 Degrees of the Zodiac (AFA, 3rd printing 1982) you know that the rounding-up method used for Sabian Symbols is not used for Carelli's Degrees. Therefore, the natal 11th house Mercury of Donald Trump (8Can51) is read in Carelli's explanation of '8Cancer' for which he gives no word picture (symbol). Not all his degrees have such symbols but each degree has an explanation, empirically collected, and often with historical references.

Now as you know, Mr. Trump's natal Mercury, planet of thinking processes, communications, commerce, deals, trades, and trickery has only a square to his natal Neptune (5Libra, 2nd house of Money and Values) to depend on for moderation. As you also know, this square spotlights his pathological lying, incorrect assumptions, lack of discretion, and outright schemes to win the imaginary war he's internally fighting with the entire world. In my experience, Neptune doesn't tend to 'moderate' anything but does tend to dissolve and suggest overblown ideas and plans while undermining thinking processes and judgment, veils motives and actions, confuses issues, and attempts to deflect from the less savory characteristics a person holds. Of course, Neptunian inspiration isn't always negative but it isn't always positive either--motive always counts, such as getting oneself out of a jam via deceit and equivocation.

So let's turn to Adriano Carelli for insights into '8Cancer', the degree of Trump's natal Mercury and if any of the following sounds familiar then we're on the same page! I shall hereby quote in its entirety this Mercurial picture of the very Mercurial wheeler-dealer, Donald Trump, Uranian extraordinaire who brings chaos to whatever he touches while his Libran Jupiter shouts, it's not fair!:

"A lazy and sensuous being, much too prone to self-indulgence and wantonness. But he has horse sense and a mind cut out for life's rough-and-tumble existence and is not totally destitute of that cunning that often replaces intelligence in fools. A general tendency toward aberration and to illicit ties (in a woman this will mean easy seduction) will expose the native to the danger of adulteries or otherwise guilty intercourse threatening his married happiness and renown. As he knows no measure, not even in speaking or writing, he will be led to more or less serious indiscretions which, according to other pointers in the horoscope, may range from petty, mischievous gossip to veritable libel, from the dutiful might be sued for slander, not for abuse (unless other components give him courage enough to voice his opinions openly) as he is too cowardly to face people directly, and delights in publishing spicy gossip about them. He usually likes to entrench himself behind the responsibility of others and to hide the hand that flings the stone. A gazetteer more than a journalist, he might have success with the chronique scandaleux and, if the horoscope helps, he may lead a paper with success; otherwise he will stoop to publishing infamous defamation and anonymous letters.

EXAMPLES: James I, king of England (Sun's degree); Benito Mussolini (degree of the point of *equidistance)." * 'point of equidistance' is the Sun-Moon midpoint. jc

Now I have typed here and there since the 'election' of Donald Trump that I wish him to do well in the role because as POTUS goes, so goes our America. However, the above Mercurial explanation of Mr. Trump more than suggests that he is not in possession of the temperament or the higher ethics that the role of US president requires for best success. And since there are those who 'select' world leaders, as a Child of the Revolution I can only surmise that the undermining--no, the collapse--of America and the 'old order' of 1776 is their ultimate objective in selecting the lewd and wanton Donald J. Trump to be the man now stooping in the White House and befouling our nation by word and deed.

So am I partisan? Yes. Partisan for the common good!

Above NASA photo: planet Mercury


Unknown said...

Dear Mr Cowell,

Sorry to point out that according to Adriano Carelli himself the zodiacal count for each Tropical sign starts at 0 degrees. That is why he has a 30th degree. If your method were correct then there would be only a 29th degree.

This means the 1st degree of CA = 0-1 (not 1-2), consequently 8-9 (where you have Trump's ME 8CA51) = 9th degree. It cannot be the 8th as you have it. Thus, your reading is incorrect.

When using Carelli's method you have to know which of the degrees apply to a particular chart. Not all do. How you do that is not published in the AFA publication of Carelli's (1951) work but it is essential to know if you are use the degree readings accurately. The reason being that if apply all the degrees of the planetary rulers you will achieve only a contradicting jumble of degree readings that have to be synthesised into a single reading. That then becomes a subjective task and defeats what Adriano was presenting. The degree readings are 1st & 2nd view (shadows to use the old parlance) and point to the 3rd view (the esoteric source that creates the shadows). Astrology provides the tools to then illuminate that 3rd view and so on. But to achieve this you must first have the correct degree pertinent to the native (or the mundane event).

It is unlikely that the 9th degree is salient either because the radix is incorrect or because it simply does not have astrological "bearing". It will be one or the other. Alas, have not checked it, only coming by your website in pursuance of a another matter but felt this serious error too serious to stand.

There is perhaps a deeper lesson here too. In the first sentence of his forward Adriano wrote "This book is not for profane hands". It was the same warning that other great Continental European astrologers have given before him. Most notably Nostradamus wrote such a warning too, aimed at future astrologers and seemingly contradicting himself. He being an astrologer! All they were doing was reminding us that ours is a rigorous Art and that to practice it you must achieve the seemingly impossible - to transcend yourself, your concerns etc. For it is ourselves and our concerns that most commonly profane. In this case, your personal concern to decry Trump so much so that having convinced yourself that the degree fitted you then twisted it into place. And so there is the profanity of which we are warned and which is a barrier against the successful practice of astrology.

In good grace,

Robert Firth

Jude Cowell said...

Robert Firth, for some reason my original reply to your criticism has disappeared I now find (May 24, 2020) so I'll try again.

With Trump (and by his fruits we know him) I didn't have to "twist" hard at all since Carelli's description as cited fits him to a T. This apparently doesn't please your own "concerns" in the political realm so obviously moving on to something more in line with your views and leanings is your best course.

Oh! and I am aware of Carelli's use of his degrees, of not rounding up as with Sabian Symbols. However, as the 360 degrees of the circle makes clear, all degrees progress into the next and far be it from me, a mere novice - not a rare expert such as yourself - to determine where the influence of one degree ends and the next begins. If you can accomplish this task you are truly an exalted one!

Jude (short for Judith) Cowell.

carpenterman said...

With respect to the comments already listed, I think Cowell's work here shows that in fact the influence of degrees clearly has an overlap of at least 30' - 40' on either side of the planetary placement. It would not be a stretch at all to allow for minute adjustments to Carelli's work. Orb boundaries are fuzzy in anyone's interpretations in astrology. Relative to the flights of fancy currently parading around the net, this article is spot on: interpretively and scientifically both.

carpenterman said...

I forgot to leave my name on the last comment. Fine to add "Timothy Ness." Thanks and keep up the good work!

Jude Cowell said...

Thank you Timothy much appreciated! Jude