Obama's Chiron in Pisces + the Nep-Pluto septile

Some folk are calling this 2008 presidential race 'gilded' but see if you agree.

Today I'm grieving for Jennifer Hudson and her family and I know both readers of this blog are saddened by this family tragedy.

Here in Georgia the weather is chill and damp today so we're staying as snug as bugs may be expected to stay.

Hearing of Barack Obama's speech in Canton, Ohio today puts me in mind of the famous anti-war speech so well-delivered several moons ago by Eugene V. Debs.

And here I've exerpted from his advice for you if you go to Washington so heed before you leave for Washington Town. The city's parallel is most particular, y'know, and there are more mountain goats than you can shake a stick at there.

So between speeches by Debs and the stellar Cross of Gold speech by William Jennings Bryan is where I find myself plopped this day while pondering why Senator Obama chose Canton in which to speak, or perhaps I should say....preach.

Natally Barack Obama has Chiron in Watery Pisces, sign of the collective, sign of compassion (not the manufactured kind), sign of sacrifice, and sign of fishes everywhere.

Pisces can be the preacher but many generals have been born under the sign of the fish (which may seem odd at first.)

And since Chiron travels between the orbits of Saturn (the past) and Uranus (the future), Chiron is the "be here now" figure, the Alpha and Omega and the All in between.

Chiron is experiential because of his catalyst nature, his morphing ability learned from sky god, Uranus, while his perfect/imperfect form is from Saturn. Plato's Ideal Form - the synthesis of Saturn and Uranus, is an idea more perfect in imagination.

Chiron is the 'learn by doing' focus in our charts and so is the expression of the Ideal in earthly form, upon the Cross of Matter.

Heaven brought to Earth, and whose Sabian Symbol at discovery, '4Taurus' is: "A Rainbow's Pot of Gold."

This symbolism echoes within Bryan's Cross of Gold speech which superimposes the strain against mankind on to a cross of cruxifixion by materialistic greed's physicality and frigidity of feeling for one's fellow man.

This precise speech garnered Bryan the Democratic Party's nomination for president although he had not been the nominee before the DNC took place.

But you see, WJB held the audience spellbound. A silver-tongued Democrat of the populist persuasion is difficult to ignore.

The supplied audio of his Cross of Gold speech (which I heard part of last week on NPR) was recorded some years after that night at the DNC. Unfortunately, no recording of his speech's actual DNC delivery exists...but eye-witness reports fill out the picture along with the text.

Then it was silver Democrats vs gold Republicans. Is it still?

The 1890s are an interesting era to study, don't you think?

After all, it's the descendants of the Generation of Materialism, the Gilded Age crowd, the Industrialists and Bankers, that are bedeviling us now as transiting MIDAS Rx plays about the 7 - 8 Gemini area which are the Great Conjunction degrees of Neptune and Pluto, the planets of the Gilded Age because their time clock was 'punched' at their conjunction.

Once again, the degrees and dates of our current Neptune-Pluto cycle:

1. August 2, 1891 8Gem38 Direct
2. November 5, 1881 8Gem19 Rx
3. Apr 30, 1882 7Gem42 Direct

Neptune - oil, gas, oceans, liquids, beverages, drugs, negative escapism, confusions, deceptions, the masses, veils, subterfuges, spirituality, merging, inspired creativity, the Divine Source;

Pluto - hidden places such as caves, tunnels, graves, sepulchres, pipes, plumbing, spies, detectives, investigators, publishers, assassins, saboteurs, a secret hand, the power-behind-the-throne, ruler of Hades, transformation, regeneration, death, the dragon who guards the riches, rapist, abductor, the pope, the puppetmaster/s.

And with Neptune and Pluto's angular relatoinship now moving in and out of septile aspect (51 degr 26 mins) the collective is having that 'fated' 'karmic' feeling/intuition deja-vu-ing once again.

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Karma: Neptune-Pluto septile has a few notes on the septile, Neptune-Pluto, and the 7th Harmonic, or
'H7' as I tend to write it...that fated feeling.

Eugene Debs: if you go to Washington

"If you go to the city of Washington, you will find that almost all of those corporation lawyers and cowardly politicians, members of congress, and mis-representatives of the masses claim, in glowing terms, that they have risen from the ranks to places of eminence and distinction. I am very glad that I cannot make that claim for myself. I would be ashamed to admit that I had risen from the ranks. When I rise it will be with the ranks, and not from the ranks." Eugene V. Debs, Socialist, Activist, Presidential Candidate (1855-1926)

Eugene V. Debs#

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Here's a link to a previous article on Debs where I give Debs' natal chart details along with more pertinent words from the man himself:

Eugene Debs still speaks convincingly demonstrates a quote which shows a directness which *most political Washingtonians of 2008 sorely lack--they're too busy trying to create the illusion of infallibility and keep their bald patooties covered!


*Even if I fail to say so, I always keep in mind that there possibly could be 1-2% of them infesting DC who actually mean well--but look who they have to deal with. Hang out with charlatans, scoundrels, and scalliwags long enough and you know what that makes you!

Eugene Debs still speaks convincingly

Information Clearing House Newsletter

News You Won't Find On CNN

12/14/07
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"It is extremely dangerous to exercise the constitutional right of free speech in a country fighting to make democracy safe in the world...

These are the gentry who are today wrapped up in the American flag, who shout their claim from the housetops that they are the only patriots, and who have their magnifying glasses in hand, scanning the country for evidence of disloyalty, eager to apply the brand of treason to the men who dare to even whisper their opposition to Junker rule in the United States. No wonder Sam Johnson declared that "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." He must have had this Wall Street gentry in mind, or at least their prototypes, for in every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overawe the people...

Every solitary one of these aristocratic conspirators and would-be murderers claims to be an arch-patriot; every one of them insists that the war is being waged to make the world safe for democracy. What humbug! What rot! What false pretense! These autocrats, these tyrants, these red-handed robbers and murderers, the "patriots," while the men who have the courage to stand face to face with them, speak the truth, and fight for their exploited victims-they are the disloyalists and traitors. If this be true, I want to take my place side by side with the traitors in this fight."

Eugene V. Debs [The Canton, Ohio, Anti-War Speech; June 16, 1918]

Thanks for the above quote go to the excellent Information Clearing House#


An orator whose communication skills rivaled those of the great William Jennings Bryan, Debs' anti-war speech given in Canton, Ohio on June 16, 1918 is perhaps his most famous speech, while his appeal to the jury and statement to the court at his trial for treason (arrested and imprisoned for giving this speech against America's entry into WWI) are considered two of the great classic statements ever made in a court of law.

Born in Terre Haute, IN on Nov 5, 1855, Debs has a Sun Sco/Moon Virgo personality blend and Mercury in intense Scorpio (8Sco03 Rx, and opposite Pluto...Mercury/Pluto = the orator; a sharp critic; the propagandist.)

The Sun Sco/Moon Virgo combo is intensely passionate, a relentless perfectionist, witty, conscientious, loyal, and a dedicated worker. (Dedicated to workers' issues as well, in Debs' case. And he was devoted to his wife all his life--they had no children.)

His straight-from-the-shoulder honesty and excellent mind are still on display in his speeches and can stir the heart as well as the mind of anyone who appreciates honesty and forthrightness...anyone who believes America should change course and return to higher ideals than those of the lower road brought upon us by the Bush-Cheney regime (and others--it's been a drawn-out process since Carter or even since Eisenhower, some say. Guess that would have to be Ike's warning against the "military industrial complex" notwithstanding.)

An interesting feature of Deb's natal chart (Nov 5, 1855; Terre Haute, IN; using sunrise: 6:36:55 an lmt) is his Pluto/NN conjunction at 3Tau+--the Discovery degree of Chiron (Nov 1, 1977.)

This adds an oppressive Pluto-Chiron plutocratic flavor--the very people he spoke against all his life--to his North Nodal path (connections with the public; encountering the powerful.)

Pluto conj NN gives a special knack for seeing through prevailing social trends and the necessary drive and determination to take advantage of the ability. Negatively, this conj indicates a dangerous tendency toward attempting to manipulate social forces too large to be handled with safety--it's the tiger-by-the-tail aspect. Affairs get our of hand and there is danger of collapse (The Astrologer's Handbook., Sakoian)

Prison terms which ruin one's health would definitely qualify here.


Images for Integration for Debs' Sun/Moon blend:

An artist combines simplicity with intensity in a study of still life...A scientist probes into the mysteries of the cosmos...Britten's opera Billy Budd. (Sun Sign-Moon Sign, Chas & Suzi Harvery.)

You may wish to visit the Eugene V. Debs official website where you'll find, among other things, a list of recipients of the Debs Awards Program given for contributions to the advancement of the causes of industrial unionism, social justice, or world peace. Some recipients include Molly Ivins in 2003; Howard Zinn 1998; Edward Asner 1987; and Studs Turkel in 1983.

Eugene Debs ran for US president as the Socialist Party candidate in 1900, 1904, 1908, 1912, and 1920 (in 1920 from fed prison in Atlanta, Ga) and he must have been quite a thorn in the imperialist-robber barons' sides. Pres. Wilson "vigorously denied" a request for pardon in 1921, but Pres Warren G. Harding released him under a general amnesty on Christmas Day, 1921.

Harding then invited Debs to stop by the White House and told him, "I have heard so damned much about you Mr. Debs, that I am very glad to meet you personally."

Well, I'm glad someone in the White House (ever) showed some shame and humility. Debs' humility and friendliness in prison had won him the respect of fellow prisoners, and personally I would have been honored to have met him myself.

Needless to say, Debs' health was broken by his years in confinement and he died in a sanitarium on Oct 20, 1926.

Now perhaps you read "Socialist Party" and cringe a bit, yet no one can deny that Eugene V. Debs gave his all for America and for social justice--losing his health and his citizenship in the process.

Whenever I read the words of Eugene Debs I feel proud of America and feel her spirit of decency--whenever I read the words of recent US administrations I feel anxious, depressed, and above all--threatened. Our liberties are their toys, and our freedoms are to be dispensed with asap. The attacks of 9/11 were about just that for we've been couped from without and, even more debilitatingly, from within.


But just what have I done for America lately? Grouse, complain, and dissent against Washington DC imperialists and warmongerers...while it's still permissable. Is this "extremely dangerous"? Probably so, for somewhere in Bush's back pocket there must be an imperialist's signing statement covering the abolishment of sassy blogs such as this! If not, perhaps I may up the sass (no, I don't have a Pluto-NN conj!)


Hear an excerpt of Debs' presidential campaign speech of 1904.


And now some final bon mots from Mr. Debs:

"When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority is wrong."

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization."



update: here are my comments about this post at Jude's Threshold.