Insolvent Social Security and America's Saturn/Neptune

Gary North's article on the insolvency of the US Social Security *System and Medicare is an eye opener well described astrologically by the recent transit of clear-eyed Saturn to US natal Neptune in Virgo, sign of Work and The Worker.

But I mentioned the transit and more Saturn/Neptune stuff in my previous post - things like deception and corruption (Neptune) in government (Saturn) - read Mr. North's article for a laundry list of deceptions concerning SS, Medicare, and the political can-kicking they've long duped us with.

He's talking about 'Social' (Neptune) 'Security' (Saturn)!

You know the US natal chart, Sibly version with '13Sag' rising, has Neptune 22Vir25 in 9th house and Saturn 14Lib48 in 10th house and their midpoint degree is 3Lib37; Mc 00Lib53. Tr Saturn in early Libra is stimulating our Sat/Nep midpoint off and on as I type. Perhaps Gary North is one of those now acting as Saturn's agent (a man with a bucket of cold water) as he asks us to deal realistically with these social issues.

At Ic 00Ari53 is revolutionary Uranus/Pluto 3Ari14, quite a pile-up of difficult energies, I must say, since whatever affects one cusp affects its opposite polarity.

There's no time this morning to discuss details on this interesting picture (as it relates to government, my usual topic of grumpiness) but I can say that the US natal Mercury/ASC midpoint is conjunct n Sat/Nep. (Mercury/Asc on a negative level can indicate wrong or misguided judgments.)

So considering that the Goals/Aspirations point (Mc) of any chart is the most visible position, therefore what one displays to the wider world, America's Saturn/Neptune is assuredly more obvious to others than it is - or has been - to Americans as a populace (with us being all insulated and all, and busy gazing at our own **beebos.)

And of course, Saturn in 10th house, its natural abode, gets really really karmic and rather nasty when an individual - or a nation - doesn't live up to its Saturnian responsibilities in the world. Then when the piper is paid, heavy accountability causes a world class fall from grace - which comes predictably and inexorably after the arrogant pride.

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*SS 'System' - July 21, 2009 Solar Eclipse 29Can27: 'systems fail.'

**'beebos' are bellybuttons and everyone has one.

USA Sibly chart: July 4, 1776 5:10 pm LMT Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

The Secret Government of Saturn/Neptune dimensions

Here's a Three Article Round-Up beginning with Sibel Edmonds on secret (Neptune) government (Saturn), then on to fascism (Saturn/Neptune and Pluto/Chiron), then it's oppression (Pluto/Chiron) and thoughts on why we're so wimpy when it comes to fighting against it.

Hmm. Didn't realize we had stopped. Of course, doing things by increments as they've done for years makes drift harder to fight than an out-and-out confrontation, doesn't it?

After the 3 articles you'll find a little Astrology concerning the Saturn/Neptune cycles of 1952/53 and 1989, and brief notes on the Solar Eclipse cycle that links them:

Secret Reports, Secret Budgets, Secret Operations, Secret Courts...A Secret Government!

By Sibel Edmonds

If these points don't sound outrageous and if they don't make the state of our liberties look dire and pathetic, then we are all in deep trouble.


American Fascism: By political definition the US is now fascist, not a constitutional republic

By Carl Herman

The definition of "fascism" has some academic variance, but is essentially collusion among corporatocracy, authoritarian government, and controlled media and education. This "leadership" is only possible with a nationalistic public accepting policies of war, empire, and limited civil and political rights.


Are Americans a Broken People? Why We've Stopped Fighting Back Against the Forces of Oppression

By Bruce E. Levine

A psychologist asks: Have consumerism, suburbanization and amalevolent corporate-government partnership so beaten us down that we no longer have the will to save ourselves?

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The Last Two Great Conjunctions (3x due to retrogradations) of Saturn and Neptune whose energies together represent on one level "secret government" or a government and leaders full of secrets and deceptions, and/or a misguided or deceitful (Nep) leader (Sat):

As you know in Astrology, any conjunction of two planets signifies a start of a new cycle of activity and influence and we've recently been under the influence of their opposition (180 degrees apart.) Oppositions are culmination stages of what was begun at the conjunction - thus, has America's reputed 'secret government' always been running in the background or is it a decades-long phenomenon?

And as always with Astrology, many levels of meaning accrue to the Sat/Nep pairing but for now let's merely look at the their last conjunctions and discuss which Solar Eclipse Series manifested as the Pre-Natal Eclipse prior to the first of both sets of conjunctions.

Separately both Saturn and Neptune can bring along issues of loss or theft, and their cyclical opposition presided over 2008's financial collapse as the culmination or fulfillment of the 'new activities' cycle begun in 1989 (Reagan and Bush Sr.) And of course, 1952/53 tabs Harry Truman (in office until Jan 20, 1953) and his successor, Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jan 20, 1953 - Jan 20, 1961.) All or most of these well-connected men were Freemasons, with atom-bomber Truman the 33rd president, significant due to the importance in Freemasonry of the number 33. "Give 'em hell, Harry" indeed. You'll reap what you sowed, Mr. Truman.

Yes, one of the thinnest moral justifications (rationalizations) I've ever come across out of Washington DC is the one about how Truman dropped bombs on Japan to 'save' lives by ending the war! Now that may or may not have been true, but it was hardly a moral trade-off that justified the loss of life and suffering their atom bomb decision engendered for generations - and it was pure choice on the part of the US government. That a natural law was broken when the first atom was split didn't seem to bother them either.

Okay, that last was pure opinionl here's the way the Saturn/Neptune tango played out:

Saturn conj Neptune (appr 36-year cycle):

1. Nov 21, 1952 @ 22Lib47;
2. May 1, 1953 @ 22Lib30;
3. July 22, 1953 @ 21Lib12. (All are within the 15Lib-15Sco Via Combusta yet are conj two Fixed Stars that are bright spots in the 'Burning Way': Arcturus ('a different approach; success through patient work') and Spica ('potential for brilliance; victory; riches.')

1. Mar 3, 1989 @ 11Cap55;
2. June 24, 1989 @ 11Cap14;
3. Nov 13, @ 10Cap22.

(The next Great Conjunction of Sat/Nep will be a big deal for the world - conj the Aries Point on Feb 20, 2026 @ 00Ari45. Transiting Pluto will be in early Aquarius by then but will move into 5-degr orb of the 1989 conj beginning in 2010.)

The Solar Eclipse Series which occurred prior to the first of their conjunctions in 1953 and the first in 1989 is the same Series! Another way to state it is that both Sat/Nep conjs of 1952 and 1989 occurred under the auspices of the 8 South Series, a difficult family indicating: finishing something, being sadly parted, separation and loss; physical injury through over straining one's strength. (paraphrasing Brady's Predictive Astrology

The last manifestation of 8S was on Sept 22, 2006 @ 29Vir30.

11S is also the PE of the Lockerbie Bombing over Scotland (1988), NASDAQ (1971), Nixon's deceptive 'Checkers' speech (1952), and of George Tenet, Vladimir Putin, William Kristol, Patrick Henry, and of Bush Sr's NWO-touting presidency. You notice the spy/saboteur flavors here.

So I guess it's little wonder that so many folks are experiencing loss of all kinds under the rays of Saturn/Neptune, losses made more personal for Americans because of the recent grim-reality/cold-water transit of Saturn to our natal Neptune in Virgo, sign of Work and Workers.

Of olden days or newly established, the secret government of the US is firmly in place, m'peops. Each presidency is but a baton-passing of the ultimate plan held in store and patiently implementd by stages.

Has our will to fight gone? No. But they keep us fighting strangers in distant lands so that we can't fight our real enemy - an amoral secret government.

Secret Government: Saturn meets Neptune 1952 - 1953

On Nov 21, 1952, Saturn met Neptune, the planets whose combination indicate 'secret' (Neptune) 'government' (Saturn), at 22Lib47 which falls in the 10th house of Public Status and Career of America's natal chart (July 4, 1776; 5:10 pm lmt, Philadelphia, PA), during President Eisenhower's days.

This conj is two Saturn/Neptune cycles ago (their last conj in 1989 in the Reagan days @ '11 - 12 Cap'), and both conjs are part of their larger pattern; their opposition phase in 2007, the 'Full Moon' stage of the process which culminated in 2008's financial collapse (Neptune) of the banking system (Saturn) which surfaced (Saturn) from the collective unconscious (Neptune) has been a major part of the propaganda script each and every day while public funds were being heisted into bank accounts unknown.

The planets were inconjunct (or quincunx - 150 degr) in 2003/04 and we know what America was doing then under George Bush. This difficult aspect between them of 'adjustment' has a 'social obligation and responsibility' flavor but it's easy to take on too much under its rays as the US has done in Iraq. Saturn inconj Neptune has a 'martyr' flavor, too.

So the recession in the US actually began in 2007 during Saturn/Neptune's on-and-off opposition and 2008's financial crisis was, imo, the culmination of plans for tighter control of the US government begun on a new level during Eisenhower's presidency. That the words 'like' and 'Ike' rhyme does not mitigate or lessen his culpability since I think all US presidents are in on the joke. And the joke is on we-the-people.

Due to retrogradation, the second of their Great Conjunction/s was on May 1, 1953 at 22Lib39; their third hook-up was on July 22, 1953 at 21Lib12. These positions in Libra place Saturn/Neptune conj Fixed Star, Arcturus, keywords: a different approach.

You'll note that July 22 is next Wednesday with its Solar Eclipse at 29Cancer27 when 'systems fail and new methods are needed to deal with events brought by the Eclipse' (paraphrased from Brady's Predictive Astrology.) Therefore, July 22, 2009 is on or near a Solar Return for Saturn/Neptune #3's Sun (perhaps a significant chart, but who has the time? The 29th crisis degree of Cancer is emphasized at the least, this we know.)

Now you'll be aware that 1952 is the year Dwight D. Eisenhower was elected president in a Republican landslide, and the US bombed North Korea.

You'll also know that Eisenhower is the one who warned us about the 'military industrial complex' taking over the US government, as they have. Sometimes I think Ike was actually preparing the masses for the idea with his direly delivered warning rather than honestly trying to caution us to avoid such a secret government, but that's probably my suspicious astrologer's nature shining through, right?

But after all, what exactly did Ike expect us to do about it in order to avoid the coup? Perhaps he didn't. Maybe he was using the power of suggestion which seems to have worked quite well. "

Saturn/Neptune conjunctions also tend toward communism as Saturn's boundaries are disregarded and dissolved (Neptune) by the state (Saturn), and secretiveness has its special place within any communist system, no? And insinuating Neptune is notorious for deception like sneaky spies depend upon.

And of course there's one of my favorite -ism creators, the Pluto/Chiron pair, whose midpoint in 1952/53 hung about at 1Scorpio+...conjunct what came to be known as the NWO's natal Sun degree of Oct 24, 1993...timed by the Great Conjunction (#3 and final) of Uranus/Neptune, a pair that adds mysticism to the scene.

Then there's an interview from 2007 with journalist John Pilger as he discusses the invisible government, US militarism, and similar subjects as they relate to the New World Order and an Illuminati agenda for America's future as...well...as a secret government. Check it out. Whether you use 'secret' or 'invisible' government - the choice is the same, and I have no idea whether Mr. Pilger is at all familiar with the astrological principles of Saturn/Neptune.

So naturally you've noticed the wide-orbed midpoint picture in the US Sibly chart for America's birth with Neptune '23Vir' in n 9th house, Saturn '15Lib' in n 10th house and Midheaven in between...

Saturn/Neptune = Mc (the 'Goal Point' of any chart): a peculiar character; a peculiar loss of ambition; wavering between materialism and idealism; enormous emotional suffering; moodiness; giving up or capitulating to the demands of the environment totally.

As always with midpoint pictures, they operate in an any, all, or none fashion, especially when stimulated into action by transit or progression. Transiting Saturn will be entering the territory in a few weeks as he tamps down US natal Neptune - or makes dreams (Nep) real (Saturn); then it's on to our Saturn-to-Mc transit (end of Oct 2009 into 2010), and a Saturn Return that begins by the end of December 2010.

Yet the simplest, most disturbing explanation of the picture from the 1776 chart may be that Saturn/Neptune's style of secret government, with all its surveillance on citizens and imperialist military expansion, really is a large part of The Goal of the United States of America.

Now that really pi*ses me off.