Saturn-Neptune Cycles 1989 and 2026

The Many Meanings Within The Saturn-Neptune Cycle

by Jude Cowell

When in August 2022 a fussy post appeared here concerning the Saturn-Neptune combination's fact vs fiction energies and the duo's association with 'deep state' (Neptune-Saturn) concepts, the upcoming Great Conjunction of Saturn and Neptune at the Cardinal World Point of 00Aries, the Aries Point, was not mentioned. Naturally, this happens to be the Spring Equinox point, aka, the Aries Ingress, where years begin in keeping with Mars-ruled Aries as the starting point of many earthly events.

Plus, as you know, the four Cardinal World Points of zero Aries, Cancer, Libra, and Capricorn are where events tend to manifest on the physical plane, events which possess global consequences. In other words, Aries Point involvement is a big deal, and the heavyweight planets Saturn and Neptune have karmic implications for progress, setbacks, or, more likely, some blending of both. For such is life on Earth.

Meanwhile, the combined energies of the planetary pair reveal a multitude of meanings in Astrology depending on how and where the pair appears and is analyzed. And according to Reinhold Ebertin, the midpoint of Saturn-Neptune in a horoscope forms the 'illness axis' while secret (Neptune) government (Saturn) has often been gleaned from the pair's workings in political realms along with certain -isms such as Socialism, Bolshevikism, Marxism, Communism, etc - all of which are manmade concepts and propagandistic labels most often used to vilify one's opponents and promote social division, aka, the divide-and-conquer strategy so popular in US politics.

Additional potentials for the Saturn-Neptune pairing include false hopes that lead to disillusionment (A. Oken), plus, renunciation, asceticism, issues of poor-sick-or-depressed individuals and our social safety net programs, neuroses, undermining circumstances, distrust, insecurity, dissatisfaction, mood changes, peculiar characters, self-preoccupation, and/or idealism vs materialism concerns (R. Ebertin's The Combination of Stellar Influences #ad).

Then on a side note, it may be worth mentioning that in the November 1989 horoscope, the Moon @24Tau28 conjuncts the natal Midheaven (Goal Point) and demon star Algol of one Donald Trump - and transit Nemesis @22Sag49 conjuncts his natal Moon-South-Node conjunction of emotional alienation. Placing these Trumpian cosmic time links into context, period 3 began in or about 2013 and continues until February 2026. And the amazing thing? Four days prior to conjunction #3, it came to pass that on November 9, 2013, Donald Trump was in Moscow promoting his franchise known as the Miss Universe Pageant, and was, as I put it in a 2019 post, "making puppy eyes at Vladimir Putin." Well, since then we've observed how their love affair proceeded - to the detriment and undermining of our country and the entire world.

So now in 2023, as the Collective approaches the last years of the duo's current cycle, we may wish to cast our thoughts toward 2026, when solid Saturn's demand for realism and authenticity next meet wispy if inspirational Neptune's fraud and deception tendencies for the first time since their three conjunctions in 1989 in the 10-to-12-degree-range of Saturn-ruled Capricorn.

Below is a tri-wheel of all three 1989 Conjunctions of Saturn-Neptune, a planetary pair also containing rational vs irrational vibes. Timings are as close to accurate as my Solar Fire v9 software gives me. And note that 36 years divided by 3 = about 12 years, as mentioned above, so we're now in the third phase of their 1989 cycle dated November 13, 1989 until February 20, 2026 with reality 'star' Trump acting as America's orange albatross prancing about on what he hopes will again become the world stage of fame and fortune:

A Union of Neptune's Faith with Saturn's The Establishment?

On February 20, 2026, a new 36-year cycle of their concentrated, combined energies begins so that a DC Horoscope may be set up and studied if one is curious about societal, political, and even religious issues via a horoscope that's 'good for' approximtely 36 years!

You'll note that the above horoscope is set for Washington DC as a symbol of America, and for those who use the July 4, 1776 5:09/10 pm LMT Philadelphia, Pennsylvania horoscope to symbolize our nation, the Saturn-Neptune Conjunction of 2026 lands upon the IC Point of the chart with its Domestic Scene and Foundational implications and a suggestion of 4/10 Security concerns. Additionally, we should admit that a major reform of government seems a likely possibility along with 'new world order' implications (as in, 1776 - 2026?).

And since I marked the above horoscope, I've honed in the time of the exact 2026 conjunction to a more accurate 11:52:48 am est with Ascendant 17Gem45 - still with the chaotic 10th house Uranus of Donald Trump rising - his guiding planet - with its rounded-up Sabian Symbol of "Two Chinese Men Talking Chinese in a Western Crowd" which speaks of alien relationships of which Herr T has enjoyed gracious plenty, while the Symbol of his natal Moon-1989 Nemesis conjunction clocks in with "A Chinese Laundry."

Is There Anyone Left for Donald Trump to Con? - clip

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Yes, these days veiling Neptune floating through its own sign of secretive Pisces is having its eroding way with the truth these days but Truth was, is, and will always be the real deal, a Saturnian sort of thing!

For as you know, the world operates within the cycle of Saturn realism and Neptune illusion, the last cycle of which began in 1989 with a three-fer Great Conjunction of Saturn and Neptune (three due to planetary retrogression):

1. March 3, 1989 @11Cap55

2. June 24, 1989 @11Cap14

3. November 13, 1989 @10Cap22

As you see by the dates, these conjunctions perfected just after the 1989 Inauguration of Bill Clinton on January 20, 1989 and put a firm Saturn-Neptune imprint upon Bill Clinton, his presidency, and his administration. Welfare reform and attempted healthcare reform are areas that first come to mind under Bill Clinton because of the association of social welfare, poverty, and illness with the Saturn-Neptune pair.

And for those of us who use a late afternoon July 4, 1776 horoscope as America's natal or founding chart, there's the 10th house Saturn and the 9th house Neptune on either side of the MC (Midheaven; The Goal). Among other things, this pair's blended energies represent materialism (Saturn) vs Idealism (Neptune), a basic struggle for our nation since day one. And it can also indicate 'secret' or 'invisible' (Neptune) government (Saturn) and Democratic Socialism which is the form of government that I believe a majority of Americans prefer (since Medicare and other successful programs are socialistic). This form of government supports life rather than the inherent death and suffering embedded within austerity programs, no matter their label or moniker.

And of course, the 10 to 12 degree range of Capricorn opposes America's natal Sun (13Cap19; leadership) so that deceptive activities and schemes have found a nourishing base in which to flourish and deceptive business practices are constantly exposed if not held accountable in any significant way--all behavior approved of by fraudulent Neptune. There is a positive side to astrological Neptune, as you know, but we're considering politics here, that "organized system of hatreds." Obviously transit Saturn will again oppose US natal Sun, exact in mid-January 2019 when the challenge of Saturnian accountability comes to call.

And when transit Saturn (today @3Cap11) moves within orb of, then conjoins, the 1989 conjunction degree of 10Cap22 in November 2018 (and of influence into January 2019), we may see authority figures and/or senior folk getting to the heart of the truth concerning matters that have previously eluded public knowledge because taking on such tedious tasks will be the order of the day--as it is already. And since a three-fer planetary conjunction denotes an extended period of time, my hope is that Truth will hold sway long enough to make a real difference in America and for the American People and the world now being run by criminal syndicates.

Related: The Conspiracy Party and Its Neptune Return (number 5 of 5 returns coming in late December 2018).

2016 Saturn-Neptune Square: What Does It Mean? - Barbara Goldsmith

January 2016 Gets Off to Rocky Start w Saturn-Neptune Square Vibes Strengthening

Since 2010 planets Saturn and Neptune have often been mentioned here on Stars Over Washington. Examples include: separately (Saturn = government, law, business and is a societal planet along with Jupiter; austere Saturn (loss) restricts, Jupiter expands (gain) and they alternate their roles in Mundane/Political Astrology as representatives of the Democratic and Republican Parties; Neptune can inspire but also undermine, defraud, and deceive; karmic Saturn and Neptune bracket America's natal Midheaven, the Goal Point, in July 4, 1776 natal charts set for around 5:00 pm LMT (Sag rising), and their midpoint is the 'illness axis'. Together the pair denotes the weaker, poorer, needier people among us so that our social safety net programs are indicated. Their combined energies also represent such societal movements as Socialism, Communism, Marxism, and Capitalism, and our secret/invisible (Neptune) government (Saturn).

In addition, the Great Conjunction/s of Saturn and Neptune have been previously considered for the current square between them is a phase of their 36-year cycle which began in 1989 with three conjunctions: March 3 @11Cap55, June 24 @11Cap14, and November 13 @10Cap22. Ah yes, Saturn-ruled Capricorn! Sign of Government, Law, Business, Systems, and the status quo. And as you see, the 10--12 degree area of Capricorn has already been trodded upon by creepy wealthy Pluto, god of Hades and the Dragon Guarding the Hidden Treasure (not to miss the resonance with China, land of the dragon, whose stock market drooped overnight which is affecting global markets today); Pluto remains within a 5-degree orb of the 1989 conjunction/s. Therefore, the Collective is experiencing a 'hangover' from 1989 triggered in the form of the downtrodden and fearful images of Saturn-Neptune = Pluto. And let's note that 'methodical execution of plans with painstaking effort' is also denoted by Saturn-Neptune (The Combination of Stellar Influences, R. Ebertin).

Now as previously discussed here, bass note Pluto in Capricorn keys such images as 'the dictator' and prescribes a long period when governments are toppled and stable institutions and systems are undermined or dissolved (Neptunian words). As 2016 begins (and with 1776's US Pluto @27Cap33 Rx), Americans are feeling the effects big-time especially since our nation has been held up as a model for the world--of democracy, freedom, independence, humanitarianism, and personal and religious liberty. Yet many of us, self included, feel that anti-American forces have taken over Washington and have and will divert America from such a noble course set upon Enlightenment principles in 1776. The 'new order' has become an outdated 'old order', the ruling elite tell us in so many ways. (Ex: a temporary government shutdown with that particular threat now permanently on the political table; even Grover Norquist's 'shrink the US government small enough to drown it in a bathtub' is a Saturn-Neptune threat!).

Years ago, America's exalted-in-Libra Saturn with its Scales of Justice changed course by progression turning retrograde in corporate/big business Scorpio (3-degrees+) where legal-minded lawmaker Saturn remains paralyzed like a fly in amber. And our national Jupiter in Cancer turned retrograde, too, in 1905 when its change of course aided the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Banking System (SP Jupiter remains in Cancer--@15Cancer, the Pentagon's natal Ascendant showing where most of our money goes.)

Now in 2016, societal concerns affected by their tension-filled square include: Saturn in Sagittarius (foreigners/emigrants leaving their native countries, boundaries and borders, a sense of justice, legalities, asceticism and renunciation) and Neptune in Pisces (fear, paranoia, pessimism, contagions, poisons and toxins, epidemics, oil-gas issues, spiritualism, mysticism, psychism, pathological tendencies, the arts). And of course, Saturn's rigid boundaries are under threat of dissolution by urge-to-merge Neptune so corporate monopolies are under the spotlight as well and the tension of their square suggests weather disasters with earth and tectonic plates (Saturn) and water/floods/fumes (Neptune) needing release.

As Above, So Below: Looking Ahead on Such Difficult Topics

Our nation has its very first Pluto Return/s to natal position in 2022--will a new order be in place by then? Plus, the next Saturn-Neptune conjunction conjoins the Aries Point (a World Point of Manifestation) on February 20, 2026 and these cosmic events are major descriptions of what all the distopian films, TV shows, and dire predictions for global society are intended to prepare society for--you know, the 'entertainment' (propaganda) we're constantly being drenched with to make the plans of the power elite seem inevitable.

All this said, perhaps an informative report on the Saturn-Neptune square from astrologer Barbara Goldsmith is appropriate at this juncture and I hope as 2016 gets more fully underway that we'll all be able to take any Saturn-Neptune lessons learned to heart by embracing Neptunian compassion while upholding Saturnian truthfulness:

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Blog Note: if I must watch depressing distopian films or films in general, my preference is the classic films and the stars who appear on Neptune's Silver Screen!

And now, here is Brett Dennen on with David Letterman, singing his song 'Heaven' which lyrically sums up all the Saturn-Neptune loss and despair mentioned in my above text. For those who believe in Eternal Life, just think--there are no politicians or prisons in Heaven!