Update: Boris Johnson's Horoscope - Brexit and Britain 2019 and 2020

ORIGINAL TITLE: Boris Johnson's Horoscope - Brexit and Britain in 2019 and 2020

by James Lynn Page

This is an update of Boris Johnson’s Horoscope (written September 9th) to the original article of July 30th.

Boris Johnson’s Horoscope – Updated Sept. 9th 2019

As we might expect signs of confusion, blockage and severe impasse (unless a real breakthrough compromise is made) are all there in the prediction charts involving the UK, Brexit and British Politics. The original 1066 chart for England (from the time of William the Conqueror) has transiting Neptune opposite Saturn throughout October - the conflict between high ideals and hard-nosed reality. This can so easily mean self delusion or stasis – the inability to move forward. On this chart, too (for 25th Nov.) there is transiting Jupiter conjunct natal Uranus - the best time for the UK election if only because it symbolises an optimistic, forward-looking fresh start and the need for real progression. The best time for who, though?

Boris Johnson's Natal Horoscope June 19, 1964 2:00 pm EDT NYC:

We'll get this very soon, but also, on the 1801 chart (for the Union of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland) there are aggressive Mars squares between the 7th and 19th of October. This means, whether or not Parliament sits, the backbiting and political conflicts and name calling is going to get even dirtier - especially on the 18th. This is also reflected on Boris Johnson’s Horoscope with severe squares involving Mars on 17th Sept., and 1, 2 and 3 October, which see him more warlike and belligerent than ever in his comments and actions, especially by the 21st when the red planet crosses his ascendant (personality). By the 24th, Mars is square to his Midheaven (his career) when the challenges (from outside) increase and so does the intensity - now the gloves are off, and it may not be pretty! Oddly, the 25th-27th may be good for him personally, with Jupiter opposing the sun. Perhaps something now goes right for him, or the tension simply abates!

So what about the forthcoming Election? Matters are too complex and febrile to start predicting who is certain to win it, or when it takes place, precisely. However, the best astrological time for Labour is early November, provided that Johnson has sought the extension required of him with the EU. At this time, Jupiter crosses the Descendant (partners) on Labour’s birth chart - some kind of pact with the Liberals would be an excellent move. Early December is not good for the Tories to call an election, as Saturn is crossing the ascendant. Plus, on the Brexit chart - the referendum chart showing the progress of Brexit in the UK (below) – the old taskmaster Saturn has a long conjunction to the ascendant on 29th Sept. until 24th Oct. This is not a good augur for the Brexiteers since Saturn represents blockages, delays and limitations. (Didn’t Boris Johnson say he just wants to get on with things?)

Brexit Horoscope June 23, 2016 10:00 pm:

Later on (Nov. 9th to 20th) there is a Saturn conjunction to Pluto - this is not good for the Brexiteers, either, as it suggests some kind of immovable object in the path of Brexit itself. Interestingly, in the Article 50 birth chart - the chart for the negotiations involving the EU (below) - any talks over Brexit are likely to break down in rancour in mid-December, though things do look brighter on the negotiating front around 12th Jan, 2020, as transiting Jupiter moves into the fourth house (home). Even with a no deal Brexit, Britain still has to negotiate some kind of trading arrangement with Europe (and commentators have pointed out that this will be more difficult when we’re not members).

Article 50 Horoscope March 29, 2017 13:20 pm Brussels, Belgium:

Saturn crossing the Tory party’s ascendant early December signifies a new phase in their development, one (as we can see already) which is yet more hardline and authoritarian. But as nothing is ever set in stone, if the Tories were to remove Boris Johnson the new Saturn effect might mean something different - a return to a more traditional, centrist party where the likes of Ken Clarke are welcome again. On balance, Labour look to have the best chance in an election (around either the 6th or 25th of November) but only if Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party fails to support Johnson.

Thank You for the update, James! Hope you'll keep us posted on how things are going in the UK, Jude

Boris Johnson's Horoscope: Brexit and Britain in 2019 and 2020

With a view from abroad here's a featured post by Britain's James Lynn Page:

Below is Boris Johnson’s horoscope, as we look at what kind of Brexit we’ll be getting. Left-leaning journalists have been beside themselves lately over the prospect of Johnson as P.M. of the United Kingdom. I have discussed the new Prime Minister 'elsewhere', but in this article I look at what kind of Brexit Boris Johnson will preside over (and the indications from his birth chart). The main questions right now are: will we leave without a deal on October 31st? And, more generally: just how easy will he find it as PM? “Dude, we’re going to energise the country!,” he proclaimed on his victory. Some commentators are not so sure, like the Guardian’s Andrew Rawnsley who wrote, 'Boris John's braggadocio will soon come back to haunt him at Number 10':

‘The schoolboy who wanted to be “world king” has spent many years lusting after the job, but that is entirely different to doing it … Whitehall is preparing for the Johnson premiership by adopting the brace position. Is this because he is infamously cavalier about detail, bored by complexity, known to react peevishly and sometimes with a ferocious temper when frustrated or contradicted, and has a notoriously casual relationship with the truth?’

At first I did a double take at this quote – Rawnsley could just as easily have been talking about Donald Trump. The astrological parallels with Trump are significant, too, and I don’t just mean the fact that both leaders are populist, outspoken sun Geminians. I have written elsewhere on this site that Trump’s continued weathering of political storms in Washington is down to progressed Jupiter on his ascendant. Jupiter has a supportive, protective quality that often ensures one’s luck holds good – whilst its astrological influence is operative, of course. Later we will find this Jupiter aspect significant on Boris Johnson’s horoscope, too.

First, let’s look at the astrological context for why we have, along with the USA, shifted to the right of the political spectrum. The transit of Pluto through Capricorn has ended up with the UK in a political and constitutional crisis. Pluto is the Great Destroyer, it is Death and Rebirth for entities that have outlived their purpose; Capricorn (in mundane astrology) is the Establishment, the System, the powers that be. No wonder that in the UK we’re going through what one commentator described as a ‘political nervous breakdown’.

In short, politicians have lost the trust of the electorate, as naked capitalism is allowed to run rampant, what with private (profit-based) companies overseeing the distribution of benefits, public education spending cut whilst private education fees are increased, and where even homelessness can be considered a crime. This is why we’re in the age of the demagogue, the populist who fills the vacuum when we’ve lost faith in mainstream political parties. But we’re a divided country because of it.

Saturn will also make an exact conjunction with Pluto in January 2020. We’re likely to see a further hardening and increase in authoritarian control as the powers that be lash out. (What the US astrologer and philosopher Richard Tarnas discreetly called ‘conservative empowerment’.) The cold unforgiving hand of Authority is already with us, take the example of the recent shameful arrest of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange. If, in the UK, it seems we’ve reached crisis point in our daily politics, you haven’t seen nothing yet; I believe the authoritarianism we’re seeing will increase in 2020.

To get a flavour of what happens worldwide when Saturn makes a hard angle to Pluto, consider these two events from recent world history. Often there is some some kind of power grab by politically motivated opportunists, such as on September 11th 1973, when an exact Saturn-Pluto square manifested in the coup d’etat in Chile, and the murderous dictator Augusto Pinochet began his reign of terror. Or ten years later, in August 1983 during a Saturn-Pluto conjunction, when Manuela Noriega rose to power. He was ‘one of the Central Intelligence Agency’s most valued intelligence sources, as well as one of the primary conduits for illicit weapons, military equipment and cash destined for U.S.-backed counter-insurgency forces throughout Latin America.’ (Wikipedia)

During any creeping shift to the right, well meaning liberals continue to warn us that true democracy is a precious thing and we should not let authoritarian leaders undermine it. In the case Boris Johnson, Guardian journalists have already noted how he has actually hardened his stance on Brexit, asking if he could close down shut down (prorogue) Parliament to stop it legislating against No Deal:

‘The legal default position is that if there is no deal, and the UK has not asked to revoke article 50 or been granted a further extension, then we leave on 31 October with no deal. But MPs of all parties have already flexed their muscles to prevent the prorogation of parliament to get no deal. Earlier this month they passed an amendment to a Northern Ireland bill by a majority of 41 to make prorogation more difficult; 315 MPs backed it and 274 were opposed. The anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller is also planning legal action to prevent prorogation.’

Boris Johnson’s Horoscope

Let’s get an idea of the man himself – above is Boris Johnson’s horoscope, and with the sun (conjunct Venus) in Gemini and Libra rising, he has that charismatic, easy-going appeal to the public, that plain-speaking, ‘blokey’ sense of humour. In short, the Libran ascendant provides charm, and Gemini the light touch. Of course, it isn’t quite as simple as this: he also has vociferous Mars in Gemini, providing fuel for his outspoken, attention-seeking quips. Johnson’s fan club like him for this perceived directness and honesty; his detractors point out that such quips are often racist, like describing Muslim women wearing a full veil as “letterboxes”.

But these situations stem from deeper, more serious elements. For one, on Boris Johnson’s horoscope we see Mercury square Pluto. Not only are there strong opinions to voice, but a range of entrenched, stubborn ideas. “You’re not going to change him,” commented one senior Tory aide. Then there is Mars square Saturn, which can mean difficulty expressing anger: Mars-Saturn bottles up reserves of aggressive ego, whether its reacting to annoying regulations, annoying people, or just the slow pace of everyday, mortal life. One wonders how much he’s suppressed over the years and how much he’ll want to get his own back on those who stood in his way. His moon is in subtle, tight lipped, opportunistic, manipulative Scorpio, after all. Here is someone motivated by the need for power. Not only that, he has the passion and determination to see his plans through to the bitter end. Now he’s Leader he’ll want to show just who is in charge.

Johnson’s much mentioned ‘buffoonish’ image is simply a part of a grand strategy: to appear funny, likeable and most of all ‘ordinary’. Who can resist someone that makes them laugh? But even the verbal gaffes are mostly deliberate – there’s little suggestion from the birth chart that he’s unaware of what he’s saying, or is unconscious of the offence he causes. His appearance on the BBC’s Have I Got News For You panel show was gold dust for this carefully contrived ‘clownish’ image. But Johnson is no fool – he knows that the accident prone, bumbling, tongue-tied, public schoolboy is a smokescreen, whilst he slowly and surely gets closer to fulfilling his ambitions and manoeuvres himself into a position of power. Job done!

An anecdote from BBC presenter Jeremy Vine reminds us that much of this buffoonery is carefully stage managed. Vine was set to do an interview as Johnson arrived, reaching for a pen to hastily scribble something on a piece of paper. So Vine was treated to the likeable, ill-organised class clown on that occasion – hair askew, falling over his own feet and then his own words. But about a year after, as Vine recalled, it was during another interview that Johnson went through the exact same repertoire, using the exact same lines: ‘as if had been scripted’.

Brexit – the Astrological Outlook

The UK Chart

Let’s have a look at the predictive material: first the national charts and then for Boris personally. First, the progressions to the United Kingdom chart (set for 1801 January 1st) on Oct 31, 2019 provide the background scenery for British politics. Here, there’s a heavy concentration of planets in the 4th house which, on a mundane chart, is about our heritage, our ‘patriotism’, our collective identity as a country, or at least a version of it. Mercury, Sun, Jupiter, Mars and Saturn are all present here – an emphasis on roots, the past and tradition. This suggests the scene is set for strong nationalistic fervour at this time in our history, one where the familiar, knee-jerk stereotypes of ‘what it means to be British’ (or English) are invoked.

The Brexit Chart

The chart set for the exit poll on referendum day (10.00 pm, June 23rd, 2016) can be progressed to show the Midheaven (‘career’/public image) within one degree of a conjunction with Mars (in late 2018 and early 2019) This right away suggests the ongoing rifts, short fuses and in-fighting surrounding all aspects of Brexit. In brief – divisiveness. With obstructive Saturn in the 11th house we might well expect that lack of resolution/agreement in Parliament, too. (This house on a mundane chart is the ‘Parliament’ of a country’s birth chart, in the case of the UK, not merely the government but the entire House of Commons.)

Also, transits to the Brexit chart show Neptune opposite natal Jupiter (exactly to the minute) on October 29th, 2019, only two days before the supposed time we exit the EU. On a birth chart this opposition means impractical, over-idealistic and ballooning expectations. Any type of concrete limitation or systemic problem is the enemy. This represents the Brexit voters’ attitude to the EU – the material reality is inconvenient. Stop standing in our way!

The Article 50 Chart

This is set for 13.20 p.m. March 29th, 2017 in Brussels, when the EU’s Article 50 for leaving the union was activated. This brings into play the European Union and is a chart about the negotiations – as such, it is somewhat different. Though Venus is on the M.C., a Mercury/moon/Uranus conjunction is prominent in the 10th (rules and authorities). This stellium is one of instability: ‘emotional’ and erratic behaviour, wilfulness and sudden whim hold sway. If both sides take this approach you can guess at the result! The urge for self-interest and trying to get one’s own way (and the determination to do this) is shown by the Pluto square to Uranus. The only conciliatory factor is Venus on the M.C. – we did at least get an extension when Theresa May was in power, and there was talk of an even longer one if required. But it’s a chart which bodes ill for harmonious negotiations and talks.

So far we have a combination of aggressive ‘I want’ and a strongly idealistic, nationalistic attitude that just may be self-deluding. But how is Johnson likely to cope? The Guardian’s Andrew Rawnsley wrote that:

‘the best educated guess about where he will get to in the autumn [of 2019] is this. There will be no better deal with the EU and parliament will prevent him from leaving without one. There would then be three avenues forward. One: he could seek another extension to the deadline for withdrawal. This would be a humiliating betrayal of his solemn pledge to his party that Britain is leaving “come what may” on Halloween … Two: he could seek to resolve the deadlock by calling a fresh referendum [or Three] he could call an election.’

The Solar return chart for Boris Johnson’s horoscope – from 20 June 2019 – has Saturn/Pluto conjunct in the 1st house. This forms an opposition to Mars and Mercury in the 7th (relationships), suggesting he’s assumed the office of Prime Minister with enemies already waiting in the wings. It’s indicative of major disagreement, but will ‘they’ be powerful enough to stop a no-deal Brexit? (The Saturn-Pluto conjunction also is widely conjunct the moon, suggesting Johnson has some emotional commitment to all of this.) It certainly suggests little in the way of compromise – and as we have seen lately, the signs are already there. Johnson will be moving heaven and earth to get Britain out of the EU by Halloween – we’re going to see more of his true Moon in Scorpio colours!

When we look at Oct 31, 2019, the progressed M.C. (‘career’) on Boris Johnson’s horoscope is exactly conjunct to natal Uranus. This is another indication of the potential tension and challenge we’ve already seen – it signifies a kind of angry revolt against stuffy authority, for this is how Johnson will see (and does see) the EU’s officials and negotiators. He’s cast himself in the role of the freedom fighter; they are the intransigent oppressors. But when it comes to enemies, ‘they’ may also be Parliament, another bunch of potential oppressors who seek to prevent a no deal Brexit. So, he has plenty of conflict to look forward to. The question is: will he get his own way?

Remember Trump’s fortunate placing of progressed Jupiter on his ascendant? Boris has this same protective phenomenon on his progressed chart for 2019, as Jupiter is in close conjunction to the descendant, and whose astrological meaning is not so different from a conjunction with the rising degree. This suggests there are powerful friends looking out for him, that he’s well placed to receive support and assistance from important sources. One of those will be Trump himself, but I think that without progressed Jupiter in close conjunction to the descendant, Johnson would be sunk by Parliament or would lose in a General Election in September. However, look at how many people wrote off Trump’s chances of even being the Republican candidate in 2016, let alone winning the election. And now look.

Don’t make the same mistake with Boris Johnson. I’ll deal with whether or not all of this leads to a General Election in another look at Boris Johnson’s horoscope, but remember, he may well be in No 10 for quite a while. Remainers, brace yourself! Like Trump, he has lucky Jupiter protecting him for now. The astrological picture for the next few months show he may weather the storm, beat his opponents and come good in any conflict. And conflict there will be! Just wait until it all kicks off in early 2020.

Image: Beyond Brexit: A Global Britain (Foreign and Commonwealth Office)/License: Creative Commons

James Lynn Page is a consultant astrologer, tarot analyst, teacher, lecturer, and author of Mind-Body-Spirit titles, who received the Faculty of Astrological Studies’ Certificate in 1984. His first astrology book, Jungian Birth Charts, was published by Aquarian Press in 1988 under the pen name Arthur Dione, and was called “one of the better popular astrology books to see print in this decade,” by Horoscope Magazine. Prediction in the UK labelled it “one of the best books to date to bring added depth to the art of horoscope interpretation.” Soon after going to work for W. Foulsham Publishing, James co-authored their annual 12-volume Old Moore’s Horoscope and Astral Diaries, and is now one of the chief astrological consultants to Foulsham’s annual Old Moore’s Almanac. He has authored the monthly astrology newsletter for Raphael’s Ephemeris. His website is Astrology, Magic and the Conscious Universe.

A previous post by James Lynn Page appeared on SO'W earlier this year as, Donald Trump in 2019 and 2020. All content used by author's express permission.

The American Revolution Was The Original Brexit! - video (w/ 1775 Horoscope)

Happy Independence Day 2016 to my fellow Americans!

Here's Thom Hartmann speaking about the American Revolution as 'the original Brexit'. Added just below is the horoscope of the American Revolution (based on first shot fired with my messy astro-notes upon it--please enlarge the image to read if you wish and note that the Mercury-Uranus midpoint conjoined the 29Aries Sun for an 'up to speed, able to create the surprising effect' tone to the early morning's events:

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Horoscope: American Revolution: the Shot Heard Round the World; April 19, 1775 5:00 am LMT Lexington, Massachusetts; Rating: A (contemporary report):

Written in 2012, here's my original article (sans edits) concerning the Horoscope and Hidden Dynamic of the American Revolution. It wouldn't surprise me if the 'Brexit' Vote to leave the EU had quite a few 'hidden dynamics' of its own!

Elites Openly Calling to Rise Up Against the Masses - video report

Did anyone think the Brexit Vote of June 23rd and other mass movements toward national sovereignty would go unanswered by the win-at-any-cost gaggle of power elites?

Here's the video link in case the video is removed from SO'W.

And be sure to check out WeAreChange on Facebook. In fact, with my preference for American sovereignty, I'll meet you there!

Related posts include: Horoscopes: European Union with Brexit Vote Planets and here's progressive broadcaster and author Thom Hartmann's recent segment What the "Experts" Got Wrong about Brexit.

Neoliberalism an Economic & Political Cancer! - video (plus, Eclipses)

It's June 28, 2016--almost time for both the DNC and RNC in July and the vote in November--and, as Thom mentions in the following clip, most Americans don't know much about neoliberalism or realize that it's a political ideology that has nothing to do with being liberal--but can be identified in the US as trickle-down 'Reaganomics':

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Actually, in early Leo there once manifested a Reaganomics Eclipse which, sorry to say, will occur again in the 1 North Saros Series on August 21, 2017 @29Leo--which conjoins the late Leo natal Mars and Ascendant of one Donald Trump, 2016 presidential candidate (personalizing it for him--and for us, if he's president). And yes, 1 North is the Nostradamus-predicted 'Mother of All Eclipses' which contained the Biblical Fixed Grand Cross of the Oxen Point (mid-Taurus), the Lion Point (mid-Leo), the Eagle Point (mid-Scorpio), and the Angel Point (mid-Aquarius). The eclipse manifested on August 11, 1999 @18Leo, and as a clarion call for the New Millennium, it marked the time when Heaven's angels let go the winds of war and strife.

Now I am not a devoted follower of the prophecies of Nostradamus, intriguing though they may be (and secret astrologer as he was), but if memory serves, he allegedly predicted the break up of Europe so perhaps his prediction was correct if we consider the June 23, 2016 Brexit vote and its aftermath which seems negative so far, and will apparently extend into the next two years and more. To my simplistic way of thinking, a break up of the European Union confirms a personal opinion that the power elite's Global Government agenda is a lousy idea in the first place. However, do disagree as and if you wish!

Related posts: EU Horoscope with Brexit Vote Planets; Horoscope: August 2017 Solar Eclipse Across America; List of Solar and Lunar Eclipses 2015--2022. And here are a few astrological notes on the brash and prideful Leonine Mars of Donald Trump (links to his natal chart).

Brexit: What The "Experts" Got Wrong - video (plus, Pluto the saboteur)

June 28, 2016: Thom Hartmann reports:

Here's a previous post displaying the natal horoscope of the EU Flag (NWO Unfurls) with 2011 planetary transits. You'll note that transit Pluto in governmental Capricorn, the planet of sabotage, transformation, and regeneration, has heavily plodded through a certain trio of planets in 4th house and shaken things up.

Also see: EU Horoscope with Brexit Vote Planets of June 23, 2016.

Horoscope: European Union w/ June 23, 2016 Brexit vote planets

After yesterday's Brexit vote to leave the EU, NY's DOW plunges after opening, reports Huffington Post, which follows the global markets' lead.

Somehow as an astrologer this all seems engineered to tally with a global crash agenda made visible by 1993's three conjunctions of Uranus and Neptune at the POLITICAL POWER degree of 18 Capricorn, a degree which transiting Pluto is now within range of. Complete financial collapse is necessary for the power elite to institute a 'new world order', aka, a 'new world economic order' or 'global government'. The 'New Order of the Ages' that was created with the founding of America has grown stale according to transnational bankers and their operatives, some of whom work the levers of Washington DC from the vantage point of America's invisible (or, secret) government.

After all, transit Pluto to the 1993 Uranus-Neptune conjunction indicates potentials for: calamities and catastrophes (Ebertin) and/or, the big picture which must be followed, very little option to do otherwise (Tyl). So is the Brexit vote to leave the EU part of the 'big picture' or is it a case of doing 'otherwise'?

Perhaps the doomsayers who have asserted that 2016 is the year of a Great Global Crash were correct--unless markets and traders can calm themselves down (which I assert they can do if they will). Below is the horoscope of the EU set for November 1, 1993 00:01 CET Brussels, Belgium as found in Nicholas Campion's The Book of World Horoscopes. Outer planets in red are the Brexit transits of June 23, 2016 12:00 am CEDT Brussels, Belgium, the EU administrative capital.

And as you see, the EU is in the midst of a three-fer *Mars Return to 24Sco06 and its natal Pluto conjunction which denotes a time of karmic events (by which this Saturnian astrologer always means, reaping what was sown):

please enlarge to read notes; more information will be added later because right now, a certain 4-year-old is at my door!

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* EU Mars Return/s: February 20, 2016; June 17, 2016, and July 12, 2016.

Ask King Midas: Is "Spread the Wealth" Socialism?

King Midas, Etching; [CC BY 4.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0)], via Wikimedia Commons

The following post is a Stars Over Washington republish from October 2008. I had totally forgotten I'd ever written it but, thanks to today's Brexit vote and its possibility of adversely affecting global markets and economies, I find myself in the mood to re-post it for you now.

So whether you agree or disagree, here it is:

Well, it's true that the phrase "spread the wealth" never goes over well with the richest class, and I can think of no better reason than this: if spreading or sharing actually occurred, half a million or so of their dollars might be used to feed the hungry, bind the wounds of the ill and dying, and comfort an orphan or a foster child or two.

Why, a factory might be built and a few jobs created - and after the corporate elite worked so hard to ship our jobs overseas, too!

So apparently, if there's one thing a rich man can't stand, it's being his brother's keeper by giving back a little of the largess he receives through the laws of this great nation and from the sweat of the common worker's brow.

Never mind that a rich man has money and legal reps to avoid paying taxes which he rightly should have been paying all along. Plus, they didn't invent offshore or Swiss bank accounts for nuthin'!

As you know, it was King Midas who turned everything he touched into gold which became a major problem to him because gold isn't everything and people turned into golden statues make poor companions.

Now, lest a rich man think this gnat of a blogger covets his gold, let him rest at ease, for temporary values don't trump (Trump!) eternal values with me - for it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God, says Scripture.

And you know that rich men probably think they have that circumvented just as they do with creative accounting tricks, triple sets of books, laws skewed on their behalf against the individual, world banks in cahoots, and Wall Street schemes galore.

But one day when All accounts are settled, we'll have to see about that. We'll all just have to see, won't we?

June 23, 2016: Funny that I must have been thinking of Donald 'King Midas' Trump and his love of gold when I published the above post in 2008--probably because he's threatened to run for president multiple times in the past. Well, this week my wonderment at his campaign rhetoric involves his assertion that he's "made a fortune off debt" (or words to that effect) and I can't figure out exactly who was harmed while he was making his fortune (contractors he refused to pay, for one.)

And yet I'm sure you've heard that, besides having a 'golden touch', Mr. Trump is Really, Really Proud to Be the 'King of Debt'! But before anyone (s)elects him to be US president, I'd like them to explain how his indebtedness to a certain German bank could compromise a Trump presidency because his indebtedness creates a vast Conflict of Interest that no other presidential candidate has ever had!

Why Do Many Brits Want To Vote For #Brexit? - Thom Hartmann (EU Nov 1, 1993)

Thom Hartmann gives some background concerning the EU and 'Brexit' (the potential exit of Britain from the European Union) and I add a few foundation details, below, if you wish to set up horoscopes for the EU, the United Kingdom, and NAFTA:

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UK: January 1, 1801 NS 00:00:28 LMT Westminster, England; Sun 10Cap11, Moon 19Can26; ASC 7Lib10 with Uranus rising @1Lib54; MC 9Can20;

EU: November 1, 1993 00:01 CET Bruxelles, Belgium; Sun 8Sco32; Moon 24Tau20; ASC 17Leo27; MC 2Tau02; 1993 saw three Great Conjunctions of Uranus and Neptune on or about 18Cap (POLITICAL POWER; New World Order)--this EU foundation made official after the third conjunction on October 24, 1993 @18Cap33;

NAFTA (North American Free Trade Association linking the US, Canada, and Mexico): passed the US Congress "shortly before 11:00 pm" on November 17, 1993; came into effect at 00:00 hours on January 1, 1994; Sun 10Cap32; Moon 21Leo09; ASC 6Lib57; MC 7Can54; restrictive planet of control and austerity, Saturn @27AQ01, conjoins US natal Moon; by this time Neptune is at critical degree 20Cap28, and Uranus @21Cap35; the Leo Moon inconjunct Uranus and Neptune denotes enslavement of workers to low wages and debt both here and abroad.

Source: The Book of World Horoscopes, Nicholas Campion (from historical records).