The Natal Planets of Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump

For former KGB agent, now leader of Russia, and idol of Donald Trump Vladimir Putin there are two possible natal horoscopes currently available, one a rectified version done in 2000 by Claude Weiss. Both charts may be speculative due to uncertain birth times.

Here are both charts' data:

Vladimir Putin: October 7, 1952 9:30 am MSK St. Petersburg, RU with 3Sco10 rising and 21Leo12 at Midheaven, the Goal Point, indicating such ambitions as leadership, approval, ego satisfaction, and shining on the global stage. Plus, Leo at MC places his natal Pluto (22Leo43) there and who could disagree that plutonian power and control (including rigid military control) are a major part of his goals? Of course, astrological Pluto also hints at potentials for manipulation, fear, propaganda, rape, subterfuge (a former spy), sabotage, and assassination (even poisoning), as part of Putin's Career picture observed by the entire world (MC). Additionally, his Pluto conjoins natal South Node, a Saturnian point (large social changes affect others who are disregarded). Scorpio rising denotes Mars and sub-ruler Pluto as chart-ruler/s which makes sense due to the Mars-Pluto combination of cruel, ruthless, forceful, even brutal, energies.

The rectified version of Putin's natal chart (same data but a birth time of 4:10 pm MSK) shows 17Cap15 rising--where transit Pluto has now crossed into 1st house--and 5Sag46 at MC suggesting that massive wealth is a goal (which has been attained) along with freedom and expanded territory (ex: from 2014 see Ukraine mobilizes troops amid crisis with Russia). In this version of his chart the angles are ruled by Saturn (ASC--a difficult childhood?) and money-grubber Jupiter (MC), the boundary breaker. If this is the correct natal chart, with tr Pluto in Capricorn at ASC, Mr. Putin is 'feeling his oats' of power and handling things 'his way' as he gains control and a more powerful public image.

Excerpt from a previous post: "Mr. Putin's natal Sun Libra-Moon Gemini blend (Air-Air) indicates that he may spread himself too thin to accomplish all his goals but perhaps it somewhat depends upon who aids him in his current take-over endeavors." To this I add that this is a personality blend of charm and clear thinking, but can be superficial and emotionally immature (Harveys).

Trump and Putin Sittin' in a Tree...

In both versions of Putin's natal chart, his Gemini Moon and Jupiter-ruled Mars (26Sag42) are out-of-bounds and thus cut off or separated in some way from the rest of his planets. This hints at mother troubles or separation, and a warring Mars off on his own and up to who-knows-what. Putin's natal Saturn @17Lib27 precisely conjoins the natal Jupiter (Station Direct @17Lib27) of Donald Trump. This denotes an enduring relationship between them with money, banking, and ideology featured. Rounded up to '18Libra' in the Sabian Symbols for the conjunction of societal planets Jupiter and Saturn, we find "Two men Under Arrest"...and we also find America's Progressed Mars Station Retrograde degree (as of 2006). To Putin's 9:30 am Ascendant (3Sco10), noted above, add US SP Saturn Rx @3Scorpio--retrograde since 1996 during Bill Clinton's legal turmoil when his presidential authority and irresponsible actions were forced into a glaring public spotlight, thus weakening America's authenticity and credibility in the world.

Fiesty Fightin' Mars, Planet of Violence and Conflict

Now here's a prominent date for Vladimir Putin: March 12, 2018 which timed his latest Mars Return (26Sag42) and denotes the beginning of a new 2-year cycle of activity. And perhaps you remember that Mr. Trump enjoyed his current Mars Return on August 31, 2017 and with Trump's Mars @26Leo, we see that a fiery trine of aid and benefits exists between the warrior planet of Vladie Putin and Donnie Trump.

Above Photo: Mars Seen from the Hubble Telescope

The Fascist Plot to Overthrow FDR - documentary

And now in 2018 we find that although the fascist spirit may be driven underground it never really goes away. Constant vigilance required!

Capricorn Mike Pompeo named new Secretary of State

March 13, 2018: CIA Director Mike Pompeo Nominated for Secretary of State, Tillerson ousted

An accurately timed natal horoscope of newly named Secretary of State Michael Richard Pompeo is available for viewing with a Rodden Rating of AA. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (March 23, 1952) has been fired by Donald Trump and goodness knows theirs was a rocky relationship all along. Mr. Pompeo may be an easier fit for quirky Uranian Trump but we'll see if Mr. Pompeo's Syzygy Moon @8Can01 conjoining Trump's natal Mercury allows for comfort between them or conflict as they pursue plans for fulfillment (Sun-Moon = Mercury) which may or may not be sympatico. Since Mr. Trump has a stated preference for conflict in all things White House their ability or inability to work together will become apparent as the months (weeks, days, hours) proceed.

Michael Richard Pompeo December 30, 1963 1:32 pm pst Orange, California

And when we look at the planets of the March 13, 2018 announcement we find multiple connections to Pompeo's natal planets. Examples in no particular order: authority planet Saturn to natal Sun (senior officials demand their due, responsibilities and/or rewards given, lack of ego-satisfaction); powerful Pluto to Pompeo's strongly opinionated Mercury-Mars conjunction in governmental Capricorn (greater personal power and control, karmic relationships especially with men; potential for sexual escapades; karmic conditions); Mercury to natal Jupiter (international concerns and more travel); Neptune opposite natal Pluto (power structures under threat, power is eroded); and Moon spotlights Pompeo's natal Venus @8AQ47 in natal 10th house of Career and Public Status (favorable publicity). Plus, transit Neptune has been within orb of opposing his natal Uranus for some time indicating a period when ideals conflict with freedom of thought and with societal institutions. Well, Pompeo (R-CA) bats for the Republican team after all.

Mike Pompeo's Earth-Air Sun Cap-Moon AQ blend identifies him as progressive yet conservative, thoughtful and skeptical, and a dedicated and purposeful idealist with a practical streak. Up front and friendly, yet a private person, Mr. Pompeo wants to reform the world which certainly includes every branch of the US government, and his independent mind and spirit may not be loyal enough to suit Donald Trump whose indiscretions and crimes demand loyalty from his underlings in order to stay covered up and keep the Trump Train chugging onward.

Born near a Full Moon, Pompeo's Moon-North Node conjunction and Sun-South Node conjunction across the Cancer-Capricorn axis is the nodal opposite of Trump's Gemini-Sagittarius condition with Sun-NN and Moon-SN. Cosmically this relationship involving the Nodal axis of both men can either aid or separate them as their relationship proceeds with Pompeo's personality blend of professionalism suggesting that he does not suffer fools gladly. So how easy can it be for Pompeo to work with Trump?!?

And it's interesting that Mike Pompeo's Prenatal Solar Eclipse manifested on July 20, 1963 @27Cancer (opposing US natal Pluto) in the 1 North Saros Series which repeated as The Great American Eclipse of August 21, 2017 with its themes of 'information is distorted and possibly false' (Brady). Yet perhaps I fret over the Pompeo-Trump relationship for nothing since Pompeo's natal Sun-Jupiter square doesn't mind bending the truth to achieve results and may bite off more than he can chew--both tendencies of Donald Trump. Today transit Venus, planet of diplomacy as in the State Department, squares Pompeo's natal Sun (8Cap28 in corporate 8th house) so modest reactions are advised if/when offered a higher position of authority, plus, some 'agree to disagree' necessities will be in order as Pompeo attempts to serve Donald Trump from within the all-important Department of State.

Senate Risks Financial Ruin Ignores What Most Americans Want - clip

Here Thom Hartmann speaks with Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin concerning a variety of current topics and issues including what's going on (or not) in the US Congress:

You know, I've mentioned before that it would be good for our Republic for us all to see exactly what's in the stock portfolios of US Congress members so that the information could be compared with their votes for or against legislation written by lobbyists and special interest operatives. So much congressional behavior would be explained!

A Possibly Related Post: London, Trump, and the Temple of Gold.

Also in the news: double Scorpio Julian Assange, pal of Russia and Trump's friend political Svengali Roger Stone.

Additional Astro-Notes on Spring Equinox 2018 posted

For those desperately longing for Spring 2018 to arrive, additional astro-notes are now published on my WordPress blog Jude's Threshold along with a pencil drawing for illustration, Abandoned Garden.

Please note that the title of the drawing isn't to suggest anything in particular being abandoned or about to be abandoned but is embedded in the post because of its flowery Spring-like appearance!

NASA image: Neptune, still floating through its creative if secretive sign of Pisces.

Carelli's Degrees: the natal Mercury of Donald Trump

If you're familiar with Adriano Carelli's book The 360 Degrees of the Zodiac (AFA, 3rd printing 1982) you know that the rounding-up method used for Sabian Symbols is not used for Carelli's Degrees. Therefore, the natal 11th house Mercury of Donald Trump (8Can51) is read in Carelli's explanation of '8Cancer' for which he gives no word picture (symbol). Not all his degrees have such symbols but each degree has an explanation, empirically collected, and often with historical references.

Now as you know, Mr. Trump's natal Mercury, planet of thinking processes, communications, commerce, deals, trades, and trickery has only a square to his natal Neptune (5Libra, 2nd house of Money and Values) to depend on for moderation. As you also know, this square spotlights his pathological lying, incorrect assumptions, lack of discretion, and outright schemes to win the imaginary war he's internally fighting with the entire world. In my experience, Neptune doesn't tend to 'moderate' anything but does tend to dissolve and suggest overblown ideas and plans while undermining thinking processes and judgment, veils motives and actions, confuses issues, and attempts to deflect from the less savory characteristics a person holds. Of course, Neptunian inspiration isn't always negative but it isn't always positive either--motive always counts, such as getting oneself out of a jam via deceit and equivocation.

So let's turn to Adriano Carelli for insights into '8Cancer', the degree of Trump's natal Mercury and if any of the following sounds familiar then we're on the same page! I shall hereby quote in its entirety this Mercurial picture of the very Mercurial wheeler-dealer, Donald Trump, Uranian extraordinaire who brings chaos to whatever he touches while his Libran Jupiter shouts, it's not fair!:

"A lazy and sensuous being, much too prone to self-indulgence and wantonness. But he has horse sense and a mind cut out for life's rough-and-tumble existence and is not totally destitute of that cunning that often replaces intelligence in fools. A general tendency toward aberration and to illicit ties (in a woman this will mean easy seduction) will expose the native to the danger of adulteries or otherwise guilty intercourse threatening his married happiness and renown. As he knows no measure, not even in speaking or writing, he will be led to more or less serious indiscretions which, according to other pointers in the horoscope, may range from petty, mischievous gossip to veritable libel, from the dutiful might be sued for slander, not for abuse (unless other components give him courage enough to voice his opinions openly) as he is too cowardly to face people directly, and delights in publishing spicy gossip about them. He usually likes to entrench himself behind the responsibility of others and to hide the hand that flings the stone. A gazetteer more than a journalist, he might have success with the chronique scandaleux and, if the horoscope helps, he may lead a paper with success; otherwise he will stoop to publishing infamous defamation and anonymous letters.

EXAMPLES: James I, king of England (Sun's degree); Benito Mussolini (degree of the point of *equidistance)." * 'point of equidistance' is the Sun-Moon midpoint. jc

Now I have typed here and there since the 'election' of Donald Trump that I wish him to do well in the role because as POTUS goes, so goes our America. However, the above Mercurial explanation of Mr. Trump more than suggests that he is not in possession of the temperament or the higher ethics that the role of US president requires for best success. And since there are those who 'select' world leaders, as a Child of the Revolution I can only surmise that the undermining--no, the collapse--of America and the 'old order' of 1776 is their ultimate objective in selecting the lewd and wanton Donald J. Trump to be the man now stooping in the White House and befouling our nation by word and deed.

So am I partisan? Yes. Partisan for the common good!

Above NASA photo: planet Mercury

David Stockman Warns of Unimaginable Economic Catastrophe - clip

Citing the October 1, 2018 beginning of Fiscal Year 2019, former congressman David Stockman speaks with Thom Hartmann concerning the current financial madness of Donald Trump (steel-aluminum tariffs, GOP tax cut for the wealthy, etc) on March 6, 2018:

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Does Astrology Agree a Collapse Is Due?

Disturbingly, the Solar Eclipse Saros Series under which Fiscal Year 2019 falls is the 2 New North which perfects on August 11, 2018 @19Leo, a sensitized degree. This is what I've previously termed The Tower Eclipse for its themes of 'collapse of an existing structure, plans, lifestyles; after the dust settles, rebuilding begins' (Brady's Predictive Astrology).

The August 11th horoscope, set for Washington DC, shows Mr. Trump's natal Pluto rising (10Leo02) and transit Pluto in Capricorn unaspected which to me represents the foreign bankers (ex: House of Rothschild) who secretly control the US financial system via the complicit Federal Reserve Banking System of America--the central bank we never wanted. Now this is my opinion and is not a topic in the above interview. If you view the eclipse chart you'll find shocking Uranus, planet of disruption and separation, at Midheaven, the Goal Point of any horoscope.

When Dark Shadows Fall

In addition, Trump's natal Pluto in 12th house of Back Room Deals, Politics, Large Institutions, Self-Undoing, and Karma, is unaspected in his chart, a condition Bil Tierney calls "one-pointed" and "overshadowed by shadows". Doing business with domestic and global criminal underworld figures can do such overshadowing. However, Trump's primal Pluto is apex planet of a difficult midpoint picture--here's an interpretation of this picture's potentials written by Michael Munkasey for it is part of Trump's psyche:

'Mars-Saturn = Pluto: extreme measures taken to apply brute force or might directly to those who are no longer able to defend themselves adequately; respected activities are corrupted; intensely applying might or energy toward goals' (to collapse the US economy as directed by the very plutonian Mr. Putin and other foreign leaders determined to establish a 'new' global economic order once the old order is collapsed--and now receiving more support than ever from the GOP and complicit corporate Dems--jc).

And in light of this week's Trump tantrums and meltdowns, here's a related post Mars Transits to Trump Natal Chart.

A Natal Chart for Sam Nunberg June 21, 1981

March 6, 2018: political consultant Sam Nunberg has been all over the news this week related to the Mueller investigation--here's an update on Sam Nunberg, former (twice fired!) employee of Donald Trump and accolyte of political operative Roger Stone who considers politics to be "performance art" (which is what I've been blogging for over 12 years now--political theater, dahlink!). Mr. Nunberg now says he will indeed respond to the Mueller subpoena after asserting yesterday that he would not because it might imperil his mentor, Roger Stone.

Without a birth time or a confirmed location of his birth (I suspect New York City so I'm using it to set the chart), here's a speculative 'noon' horoscope for Sam (Samuel?) Nunberg, member of the New York state bar, and man born with thinking-communicating Mercury Rx melded to his natal Sun (self-absorb much?) which is probably @00Cancer+ but if born prior to 7:54 am edt, may be in the last degree of chatty Gemini; Moon is in Aquarius (10:13--23:04). Either way, Sun and Mercury conjoin one of the Cardinal World Points of Manifestation so it seems that world fame is one of Mr. Nunberg's objectives in life.

Please enlarge the image if you wish to read the few notes penned on:

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Blog Note: the idea to post a version of the Nunberg natal chart was inspired by Leo Moon.

March 6, 2018: Mercury to Aries Point w Stars

Horoscope Image: March 6, 2018 2:34:25 am est White House Washington DC; Cardinal Water strong; Hour of Mercury in 'its' 3rd house of Communications; chart-ruler Saturn @7Cap41 and rising with Facies (ruthlessness or the victim); Mercury and Venus conjunct Scheat (misfortune; intellect), Sun conjunct Achernar (risk of rapid endings; crisis) and remains near masking, disguising, deceptive Neptune, North Node @14Leo31 8th house points toward Dubhe (loving but forceful); Mars conjoins the prophetic Hopi 'Blue Star' Ras Alhague and the Moon-SN conjunction of Donald Trump; and the Scorpio Jupiter in 11th house inflates starry Agena (the pain of learning).

In 2nd house you see the current Solar Eclipse of February 15, 2018 (27AQ07) in the 1 South Saros Series (flooded with ideas or options--Brady) where karmic progress can be made, and the last lunation, the Syzygy Moon @11Vir22 in the corporate 8th house as is the North Node of future direction. As you see in the horoscope, the planets form a BOWL shape with the fluctuating Moon @9Sco51 in 10th house leading the planetary throng; quirky radical Uranus @26Ari09 and asteroid of grieving mothers, Niobe, conjoin the Ending or Foundation Point of the chart, the IC. Pluto at a critical degree (20Capricorn) and rising behind Saturn, both karmic planets set to meet in Great Conjunction on January 12, 2020 @23Capricorn.

Three midpoint pictures are penned on the chart; any, all, or none may apply:

Lower left, Mars-Saturn = ASC; upper right, Mars-Pluto = Saturn; mid-right, Mars-MC = Jupiter. Now planet Mars rules the Cardinal Aries Point, as you know, and planet Mars @23Sag23 rises in 12th house of Politics, Karma, and Self-Undoing after conjoining Mr. Trump's Moon and South Node conjunction and describing the anger, quarrels, and separations recently surrounding Mr. Trump.

Also of note is Chiron to Aries Point which first becomes exact April 17, 2018, again September 25, 2018, and third/last on February 18, 2019.

A Changeable Moon Fighting for Survival in Scorpio

The double Water blend of Sun Pisces-Moon Scorpio suggests a period of emotional and psychological insights and intuition, deep and complex feelings, and mental clarity for those who can transcend their personal prejudices; courage in the face of adversity may be in evidence along with the tendency to manipulate others in order to increase one's power and advantage while using scathing criticism and a fighting spirit in the process.

Sun Pisces-Moon Scorpio blend is shared natally by author John Steinbeck who perhaps puts the day's energies into context saying, "It is the nature of a man as he grows older...to protest against change, particularly change for the better."

'30Pisces' = "The Great Stone Face"..."DISCERNMENT...destiny is character."

'1Aries' = "A Woman Rises Out of the Water, a Seal Is Embracing Her"..."REALIZATION...the self cannot separate itself from its own private obsessions." (The Sabian Symbols in Astrology, Marc Edmund Jones.

March 2018 Deadly Storms: "A Tree Felled and Sawed"

The current Solar Eclipse series perfected on February 15, 2018 at the rounded-up degree of 28Aquarius, the degree of the late afternoon Moon of July 4, 1776, the US public's We The People degree. The Sabian Symbol for '28AQ" is particularly tragic during current storms and it's not only in America that falling trees are killing people but on Portugal's island of Madeira showing that my calling this 1 South eclipse the 'We The People Eclipse' is not a wide enough reference to much deeper meanings. Yet my condolences are wide enough to spread across the globe.

For as secretly feared, and knowing that damage, loss, disruption, and/or sudden events may accompany any eclipse, the February 2018 Solar Eclipse themes of 1 South are all too cryptic - flooded with ideas and options (Brady) with the unfortunate Neptunian keyword being 'flooded'.

Here is the Marc Edmund Jones version of '28AQ':

"A Tree Felled and Sawed...keyword: IMMEDIACY."

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The Sabian Symbols in Astrology Dr. Marc Edmund Jones.

Predictive Astrology Bernadette Brady.