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Showing posts with label democracy in America. Show all posts
Showing posts with label democracy in America. Show all posts

Jul 27, 2023

Will Trump’s New Inflammatory Fascist Ad Ignite a Civil War? - Thom Hartmann

One of the more closely related SO'W posts to Thom's topic is from October 2022 concerning a cosmic time link via two Solar Eclipses, both in the 6 South Saros Series: The GOP Wants Confederacy 1861 Back where you'll see the 1860 6 South manifestation heralding the Civil War era, and its repetition in October 2022 @2Scorpio. Both eclipses reveal materialism through Venus, but the 1860 Mars, the warrior planet, is the real 'star' acting as leading planet of a ruthless Locomotive shape of planets; plus, Mr. Hothead is out-of-bounds ('OOBs') of the earthly plane, and opposes the 1860 Eclipse which indicates resentment, and tug-of-war activities.

And isn't this what the GOP and its hotheaded, fanatic 'magas' are attempting to activate: a tug-of-war campaign intended to ignite a second Civil War?

One of the unfortunate symbols of their 'success' with the gullible among us is the misguided insurrectionist who carried a Confederate flag into the US Capitol Building on January 6, 2021. For after all that my Southern ancestors sacrificed during the 'Civil' War, this American found the image to be highly offensive.

But my point today for gullible sore-loser seditionists is this: America is a Perpetual Union and it's constitutionally illegal for a state to secede from the Union - and this limitation is one of the several reasons that Trump and the GOP are determined to make the US Constituion null and void. If they can manage to break that legal taboo, our Perpetual Union can be dissolved along with democracy in America. This will make a return to brutal, sadistic Nazism more likely to spread around the globe.

Therefore, our fight is for the highest stakes: for life itself. Which means that to Vote Blue is the only path forward for the sake of our children's futures!

Jun 16, 2020

Democracy For Who? Do The Poor Have A Say? - Thom Hartmann (plus Ceres!)

Here's a June 16, 2020 clip from Thom Hartmann concerning a timely societal topic which contains within it many thorny and related issues:


In Mundane Astrology I tend to use asteroid Ceres as a marker for democracy, aka, Democracy. However, these days, America's fabled streak of Plutocracy has grown wider than ever and we find that on July 4, 1776 our Ceres Rx @8Pisces41 conjoined the 1776 natal Pluto-Chiron midpoint with the midpoint's plutocracy, exploitation, primal violence, and racism implications now coming to fruition across the land. And where is Ceres in transit as I type? At 11Pis38 which suggests that in 2020, America is actually in the midst of a three-fer Ceres Return due to the asteroid's retrogradation.

Exact dates of America's current Ceres Return/s are: May 28 (passed obviously); August 14; and December 20, 2020, the last a significant date for other reasons. Hopefully by December, solutions may be found, presented, or even implemented to address at least some of our nation's thorny issues within the realms of Ceres.

This may be possible since a Ceres Return spotlights our national Ceres concerns (in compassionate Pisces!) such as nurturing, home and family, parenting, food supplies (food chains), agricultural concerns and practices, protective instincts, and democracy with a cosmic laser beam to be dealt with in 2020 and, hopefully, to result in improvements for the population of our country which, whether Republicans and other selfish Ayn-Randers like it or not, includes the poor, elderly, ill, and weak among us. Even our Voting Rights are involved since office holders determine how We The People are treated or mistreated, how funds are allocated for the care of our people in need - and to 'promote the general welfare'. And yet as we see since 1776, the nation was set up from the start with the plutocrats in charge.

To close, here's one of my drawings of a protective mother and child:

Image: 'Ceres and Persephone'; pencil on paper by Jude Cowell.

Mar 29, 2020

Is There Any Difference Between Mob Rule & Democracy? - Thom Hartmann

In a segment posted March 27, 202O, here's progressive broadcaster, activist, and author Thom Hartmann:

Astro-Note: I don't know about you, dear reader, but in Political Astrology I use asteroid Ceres as a symbol for democracy which tends to nurture and serve the people's needs. And where is Ceres as I type at 12:06 pm edt? At 21AQ53 and approaching America's Aquarian Moon (We the People!) of July 4, 1776.

Nov 9, 2019

DC Horoscope: 1st Public Impeachment Inquiry

Image: A speculative '10:00 am' Horoscope for the 1st Public Impeachment Inquiry into Donald Trump scheduled for November 13, 2019, probably opening at 10:00 am est Capitol Building Washington DC. US diplomat to Ukraine William Taylor is expected to present a damning case against Donald Trump--and note that personal name asteroid Taylor @22Lib53 sits atop the Midheaven ('MC'), the Goal Point of the chart and of the inquiry. Also at MC are starry Arcturus and Spica (the spike), and in L'Enfant's original plan for the District of Columbia, Arcturus represents the White House while Spica is the Washington Monument, or, the presidency as archetypally modeled for us by George Washington.

Asteroids America (10th house), Columbia (5th house), and Washingtonia (7th house--conjunct US natal Mercury Rx @25Cancer) are penned inside the chart as well; opposite Washingtonia is Hopi (ambush or prejudice) conjunct US natal Pluto Rx (1st house). The chart's Vertex @10Leo, a point of fated encounters, points directly toward Trump's natal 12th house Pluto (10Leo02), his Underworld planet and part of his natal midpoint picture of which to be afraid--Mars-Saturn = Pluto: brutality; rage, fury; murder; death of many people -Ebertin). As you know that Trump has already caused tragedies for many. That's his creepy, subversive Pluto in egotistical Leo.

Just crossed the 10:00 am MC is Trump's natal trio in Libra: Neptune-Chiron-Jupiter. He of the speculative ventures, fraud, and grand schemes of bubbly proportions (aided by his natal Mercury-Neptune square of fantasies, lies, inability to learn, and confusion). He's having morbid thoughts now (Mercury-Neptune = Saturn @16Cap23 in 1st house).

Lower right is marked transiting Icarus (who flew too high) @24Scorpio39--conjunct Trump's natal IC of Endings (round up to "25Scorpio" = "An X-Ray"). What is an impeachment inquiry if not an x-ray, a scrutiny looking beneath surfaces? As you see in the 12th house, Trump's natal South-Node-Moon conjunction has already risen so his next natal planet to rise is his 10th house Uranus (17Gem53) all the way over in the 6th house of this chart (unmarked). His North Node, then natal Sun in perverse Gemini soon follow Uranus, his guiding planet of chaos. And notice that the transiting North Node @9Can16 (conjunct hellish Hades!) still points in the general direction of the current 3 North Solar Eclipse ('PE" marked in red) with its 'news that transforms a situation'/'large plans are wanted--but don't get carried away' vibes (Brady), news that the first and other inquiries are certain to provide.

Now sprinkled around the outside of the horoscope, highlighted in blue, are a few of Trump's natal placements (June 14, 1946 10:54 am edt Queens, NY), plus, there's US natal Moon (We The People; the public) in 6th house with the Pluto-Chiron midpoint of Plutocracy @26AQ26 sitting atop it/us. I can feel the weight of plutocrats' boots on our backs, can't you?

Edit January 24, 2020: this month the Pluto-Chiron midpoint by transit has conjoined with America's natal Moon (We The People) in late Aquarius. Ouch. Exploitation and power abuse. Both perpetrated and experienced.

At 10:00 am "30 Sag" rises ("The Pope Blessing the Faithful"--and I'm sure he does) so let's not forget that a key player in Trump's so-called administration is pretend-AG Bill Barr, an ultra-right ideologue they say in league with Opus Dei. This gaggle of gangster kleptocrats surrounding Trump don't believe in democracy (asteroid of democracy, Ceres, is rising with passionate Eros, the piercing) so why are we allowing them to sabotage America? Besides, starry Acumen also rises with keywords: attacks which weaken and I sincerely hope that this and other political performances we're being 'treated' to these days bring a loosening of the grip around the necks of decent people the world over by global mob syndicates, networks of gangsters, bankers, corporatists, and other criminal elements banded together and now clawing and grasping for total control.

That my expectations for our nation's better future are very high, I know. But what better can a Child of the Revolution pray for?

Aug 5, 2015

"Americans are hungry.." for Government that Works for Every Citizen

"Americans are hungry, indeed starving, for candidates who will take action to ensure that government works for every citizen, not just those who are able to write big checks to candidates, parties, and political action groups." — Miles Rapoport, Common Cause

The above excerpt is from Facing $5 Billion Campaign, Hunger for a '21st Century Democracy Agenda'.

Pathethic, isn't it? That the democracy, the republic, and the Enlightenment principles our ancestors fought and died for have been under attack from usurpers whose goals include a dismantling and collapse of all civilized institutions, a "drowning" of the US government, and the anti-constitutional establishment of a draconian global government where freedom, independence, liberty, human rights, and personal conscience dissolve as an anti-sovereign regime grasps power in its hot little claws.

Many people feel it these days especially with *Pluto in process of returning (in 2022) to its July 4, 1776 degree in late Capricorn: that powerful transnational entities have grown tired of the Novus Ordo Seclorum--the new order--of 1776 and presume to have the right to replace it with a crabbed plutonian model of their own design!

If you are an American by birth or by inclination, do you beg to differ?


*One of the roles of Pluto in Capricorn = the dictator (Ebertin.)

Corporatism + Statism = Fascism

Aug 3, 2015

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Washington DC Statehood (HBO)

In case you missed it: last night's commentary on Washington DC's lack of representation in Congress by John Oliver is a must-see!

#WashingtonDC #DistrictofColumbia #USCongress #democracy #JohnOliver

Aug 6, 2013

Thomas Jefferson on Newspapers and Despots

“The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers…[A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper.” Thomas Jefferson to G. K. van Hogendorp, Oct. 13, 1785.

“The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure.” Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1823.

“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.” Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.

Blog Note: The above quotes were originally posted to Jude's Threshold.

Oct 15, 2011

12 Laws Used to Stifle Occupy Wall Street

Oct 15, 2011: Rania Khalek has published a round-up of the 12 Most Absurd Laws Used to Stifle the Occupy Wall Street Movement including what other city police departments (and their illuminized bosses) are up to.

Yes, The Establishment is workin' mighty hard to squelch any expressions of the demands of We-The-People--for justice and equality--ironically, two things you'd think the US government would be in favor of since its neocon Vulcans are so fond of fighting illegal wars based on exporting such stellar conditions to foreign lands!

Now 'exporting democracy' is one of their ruses, to be sure, yet the irony of the US government's untenable position on the matter of Wall Street Greed and Corruption--and on many other matters--shows how stupid and gullible officials think we are.

Yet if the Obama administration had taken office in 2009 and proceeded to prosecute the guilty for their financial crimes, it probably wouldn't be faced with the slogans and chants of Occupy Wall Street in 2011, investors wouldn't be leaving the market in droves, confidence in Mr. Obama and our capitalist system would be higher, and the US economy would be better off.

Yes, it's true what they chant on the streets:

This is what democracy looks like!

Especially when 'democratic' leaders aren't doing an honest job and are abandoning the America people to the (lack of) mercy of corporate bankers and internationalists with their not-so-secret agenda to fulfill.

For further reading, try this list of members and participants in the Bilderberg Group of world bosses including Bill Clinton, Rick Perry, and others whose names and reputations we all know...or think we know.

You'll also find my assessment of candidate Rick Perry's natal horoscope here if you're mildly curious. Alex Jones video presentations are included though viewing them is not required. jc

Jul 8, 2011

USuncut v Bank of America (Chris Priest video) + Pluto/Chiron

Tax Cheats of America! You know it does my Flower Power Generation heart good to see young and youngish Americans demonstrating--and writing/performing songs for the cause--against oppressive forces now undermining the stability and future of our nation:

USuncut v Bank of America.

The love of money is the root of all evil. Guess we know what that makes the international banking syndicate 'cos they lo-o-o-ve the world's money and gold so very much, they're in process of stealing every bit of it any way they can.

USuncut has also demonstrated against Apple with a Love the iPhone Hate the Tax Cheat campaign. Other videos are available at this one's end by clicking on the next video, if you wish.

After all, when the global banking industry purposefully collapsed the US/World Economy in 2008, the big bailouts which US banks were gifted with free-of-charge were made up of US tax monies collected from citizens and from a few corporations.

But not to fret! It's 3 years hence, and the situation has been 'fixed' so that big corporations pay so little in taxes (if any) that future bailouts for their Too Big Too Successful Selves will not cannibalistically contain any corporate funds at all! Because what's the point in receiving the gift of your financial (and power) dreams if you've had to provide even one cent of the goodies yourself?

That's just crazy!

In no particular order, Astrology describes the Pluto/Chiron pair as:

corporatism, fascism, statism, communism, socialism, marxism, stalinism, leninism, bolshevikism, nationalism, militarisism, nazism, zionism, racism, genderism, other -isms, oppression, abuse, misuse of power, disenfranchisement, primal violence, and strong-arming of all descriptions, to name but a few. In the pair's symbolism, we see the destructive spirit rising.

So with the difficult planetary energies reflecting goings-on on planet Earth for August and September 2011, we'll be fortunate to reach October (not usually one of the more uneventful months itself) 2011 resembling the society we've grown accustomed to. Then on November 25, 2011, the cosmos brings us yet another Solar Eclipse @ 2 Sagittarius in the 14 North Saros Series which last manifested in 1993, year of the Great Conjunction/s of Illuminatiism's favorite pair, the 'scientific' planets of The Enlightenment, Uranus and Neptune.

Timing an October 24, 1993 natal chart for the modern-day New World Order, Uranus/Neptune met at '18Capricorn' = 'POLITICAL POWER; negative expression: smug or strong-armed paternalism'. (Jones.)

2011 is a year of 4 Solar Eclipses as were 1917, 1935, 1964, 1982 and 2000 (eventful!) Blog Note: SO'W will publish on the November 2011 eclipse soon. You won't like it much, but I'll post it anyway.

Meanwhile, if you wish, read more on the cosmic energies of 2011 and 2012 for preparation's sake @ Theodore White's Global Astrology.

Boiling Down...

Well, does the world hinge again upon America and our legendary Eternal Ideal of Freedom and Justice For All? Then Athens, Greece puts America to shame. The great numbers and tenacity of Arab Spring demonstrators puts we-the-people in the shade considering what's happening across the US. Yet if we can take back America for we-the-people's sake without marching in the streets (where crusty old Pluto/Chiron types want us, therefore I'm more inclined not to give it to 'em) then passing around article links and videos (if you can't show up) is much better than not speaking out or showing interest at all.

Since America was born from an idea/vision/dream, then can she be rescued from destruction in similar fashion by better, more Common Good ones? By a real American Dream which takes the High Road that our government always pretends we're taking no matter how many women and children are bombed or how many resources are plundered?

Working Compassionately for The Collective

Yes, America was born when idealist, dreamy, grandly-spirited, divinely-inspired Neptune, planet of The Masses and The Collective Unconscious, was traversing the sign of practical, critical, workaholic Virgo...and so this daughter of The American Revolution must ask:

Got community? Community spirit? Team spirit to spare for America?

Perhaps seeing what your elected officials are up to is a good pre-emptive idea for I know mine aren't monitored nearly often enough. Got a local paper or rag? Read it when you can, respond on-topic as you will. As you know, our power is in our numbers, m'peops!

For to paraphrase the excellent way Thom Hartmann ends his broadcasts, 'Democracy begins when you show up--tag, you're it!'

The shape America is in circa 2011 is definitely one of those If You Snooze, You Lose situations. The globalists' coup is well advanced. Only with constant vigilance and speaking out for our rights and for what is right gives us a chance to succeed against the Goliath of Abusive Power.

Dissenting because I care,

Jude Cowell

Mar 22, 2011

After Citizens United, & Solar Eclipses 1993 = 2011

Perhaps you've seen the brilliant photo of the March 19, 2011 SuperMoon in Virgo rising above DC's Lincoln Memorial now posted on a new blog After Citizens United.

(Astro-Note: constellation Virgo and its stars have particular significance for the founding of America including the related archetype for nurturing asteroid Ceres ('security concerns') which in America's natal chart, conjoins our natal Pluto/Chiron midpoint @ '8Pis'...and Pluto/Chiron = Plutocracy and its attendant class warfare and disenfranchisement.)

Well, if you're interested in the January 2010 SCOTUS decision on Citizens United which upped the corporate anty on the power elite's campaign contributions for 2012 and beyond (US gov bought and sold = Plutocracy), I hope you'll check out After Citizens United which contains an image of the SCOTUS Ruling horoscope of January 21, 2010, and links to related topics.

My feeling is that these birty dastards have a huge jump on the citizens of the US so pass around all pertinent info you can find! Apathy is no longer an excuse so it's imperative that as many Americans as possible pay close attention to all class warfare matters which are seriously undermining our democracy, and that obviously includes Citizens United v FEC.

Included on the blog you'll also find an essay by Joan McCarter entitled "Money's Sustained Assault Against Democracy" so if you're fond of democracy in America (or wish we had some rather than exporting it across the globe bwo lies and guns), Ms. McCarter's article is highly recommended. And a tidbit of info from the Citizens United blog: SCOTUS will hold hearings on March 28, 2011 concerning Arizona's public financing system; other related suits are pending so we must keep up!

Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Libya

Now some are saying that President Obama didn't have the authority to act in Libya as we're doing under cover of a 'humanitarian mission' to protect civilians (there we go again: bombing = 'saving'. Yeah, right.) Presidential overreach and the military action in Libya are facets of the global elite's Undermine America Agenda in order to set up a one-world-government and we're watching the US government further extending its imperial self into the region of the Middle East. It remains to be seen whether our incursion into Libya can be handed off to foreign entities in a few days.

Of SuperMoons and Eclipses 1993 - 2011

The last SuperMoon occurred in March 1993 which is of time-link interest since the two Solar Eclipses (SE) of 1993 are repeating in 2011 with similar influences upon society.

May 21, 1993's SE @ '1 Gemini' is in the 13 South Series as will be the June 1, 2011 Solar Eclipse @ '11 Gemini', a degree which falls between US natal Uranus 8:55 and US natal Desc '13Gem'...Uranus/ASC = Sun: friendships with leaders and important people; physical unrest; mobility; a restless colleague or partner; anxiety about putting one's best foot forward; hoping for success. Uran/ASC = Moon: getting excited through the influence of others; quick mood changes; emotionalism spills into view; needing support, sympathy, and approval (speaking of 'approval', Obama should've gotten that from Congress before he took us into Libya in what may be an extended piece of Hades - UN approval is not congressional approval - for a little while longer at least.)

From Brady's Predictive Astrology we find that the influences of 13S include: expansive energy under which lies a sinister flavor; striving for group endeavors, either positively or negatively; urge to expand brings frustrations, inhibitions, and loss or separation. And for Australia in 1975, 13S included a Constitutional Crisis (which may be brought to the White House circa 2011 due to Libya invasion or ___?___.)

The second Solar Eclipse of (November 13) 1993 @'22Sco' which repeats on November 25, 2011 @ '2Sag' is in the 14 North Series with vibes that include: draining of energy; an acute time of confusion in relationships, and unexpected happenings in financial matters; despair; a peculiar turn of events; too much confusion and delusion to make clear judgments (paraphrasing Brady, as above.)

In her book Eclipses, Celeste Teal titles the '11Gem' Jun 1, 2011 Solar Eclipse, "Something to Cry About" (though that's usually reserved for '00Gem' because it conjoins Fixed Star Alcyone, of the Seven Sisters.) She states that its nearness to US natal Uranus indicates surprising developments in government which may be dealing with a "lack of support"; falling in 8th house in DC, this eclipse heralds issues of taxation, mortality, burial concerns, sanitation, or contagion (radiation from Japan?).

Other possibilities for the June 1, 2011 SE are that trade agreements are strained in foreign relations, workers' strikes and protests continue, military controversies surface, and there may be an urgent health situation, hospital condition, or prison crisis to deal with. Plus, a particularly mysterious crime/s may be in the news (bio-weapons expert John P. Wheeler? Someone new?)

Teal's title for the 14N SE of Nov 25, 2011 is: "Blazing New Trails" - yet workers will still be discontent, there are concerns over secret enemies, and there's an "extension of power of nation in the world, although some complications to overcome." Is Libya only the US government's first 'no-fly-zone' justification?

Well, on that New World Order note I must leave you for my pesky old day job and a sincere hope that we'll reconnect another day while remembering what Herbert Hoover said on such topics: that old men make wars and young men fight them. How correct he was.

Now if only we could get the world's young men and women to turn their backs on war.

Mar 7, 2011

GOP v Workers -- and Women

International Womens Day 2011: Hanging By a Thread in America?

by Jude Cowell

With their assaults on Workers Rights coming soon to a state near you, notice that the GOP has shown the gall to attack Women's Rights, too. Isn't misogyny passe?

Now if you, dear reader, voted GOP or TP in November 2010, it's difficult for me to believe of you that rolling back women's hard-won rights was any part of what you wanted these political jokers to get up to. Maybe you're Pro-Life and all but so am I: abortion used as birth control isn't right, imho.

Must American society replay the social ills and fights for improvement from the turn of the 20th century? That's so...deja-vu.

Now I know that liberalism is dead or on life support in America and the Democratic Party failed to defend its exalted values and virtues when they had many chances to do so over the last several years. Instead, they became corrupt enablers of the overarching agenda we're now seeing forcibly implemented with "austerity cuts" and attacks on Workers Rights and pensions. And times are going to get harder for people who can least afford to do with less - in order to offset tax breaks for the rich.

Besides, to paraphrase film maker Michael Moore at the rally in Madison, WI on Saturday, America is awash in cash - we're not broke!

So it's okay if we-the-people don't capitulate to the forces that want to deconstruct this nation into chaos so they can rebuild it in a global fascist image - instead we must fight for a return to our Democracy. But this requires much more participation in the political process than most Americans seem willing or able to give. That we must get over and band together as many are already the streets, if necessary.

For as you know, there are three things the persuasive Koch Brothers of the world don't have that we do: massive numbers (we-the-masses!), a sense of direction, and a moral conscience. Are we Pharisees or Good Samaritans? Have we a communal sense on behalf of the Common Good or only shrivel-hearted self interests?

So as Thom Hartmann says encouragingly at the end of each broadcast (and he's talkin' to me, too), "Tag, you're it!"

Jan 16, 2011

FDR quote on the Essence of Fascism

"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. "

-Franklin D. Roosevelt, "Message from the President of the United States Transmitting Recommendations Relative to the Strengthening and Enforcement of Anti-trust Laws"


Quote compliments of Information Clearing House.

Dec 26, 2008

US as democracy a delusion

With transiting Saturn approaching America's natal Neptune in Virgo, planet of delusion, deception - including self-deception - confusion, veils, the masses, oceans, the collective unconscious (Uranus and Pluto - all three outer planets - are linked to the great unconscious of mankind as symbolized in the constellations by Cetus the Whale) we must wonder what the old man will bring to our ideals - a tampering squelch or wishes coming true?

Neptune's province includes the basic urge to merge, as well as ideals and dreams, so considering Saturn's function of splashing cold water upon what won't be manifesting (no matter how one wishes upon a star), the US may have a very basic and fated realization coming by way of Saturn's realistic rays to nebulous natal Neptune 22Vir25 in natal 9th house of Philosophy, Higher Education, and Religion.

Down to Earth with a Bump?

Today is 12.26.08, and my radio is broadcasting, PRI's 'Changing World' with a program called, Desperate Dreams...descriptive of my blab here on Saturn (desperation; loss) and Neptune (dreams.)

There is a place where I attempt to blend these Saturn (form)+ Neptune (mists) energies into an image at Dreamyfish Art if you're interested in botanical fish portraits placed in fantastical undersea scenes - ensnared within their favorite dream surroundings, as the script goes.

Yet this crisis in consciousness has been a long time least 28 years with Saturn's orbit. Something of a mosey, 28 years, which could actually vary from 26.5 and 30 years, depending on retrogradation, etc. Old men often hobble along as slow as turtles, but some have a hitch in their get-along when they choose to.

And then there's Saturn's timekeeping function - Time, the one thing Astrology brings to any picture because, like it or not, we are all subject to the Great Equalizer, Time, another of Saturn's realms peeking from behind his Chronos face which we view in the symbol for January, the face of Janus.

Saturn's last tango with US natal Neptune was a three-fer transit: Oct 23, 1979; March 29, 1980; and July 13, 1980. Events from this time period, or situations where things were happening then may come back to haunt, or need further attention in some way.

And if the pertinent Solar Eclipses of the time (1979 - 1980) extend their influences to the present year 2009, we have:

18 North '29Leo' = high stress level; taxing of strength possibly including accident or injury; physical concerns and obsessive thinking or worrying.

18 South '27AQ' conj US n Moon = endings, partings, separations through travel or endings of relationships, but new situations have positive outcomes. (Brady's 'Predictive Astrology.')

Now if Saturn's lessons have been heeded in the past (Saturn's realm, the past, along with tradition; Saturn is the old man, the senex) if lessons have been heeded and responsibilities have been honored and taken seriously, Saturn may bring long-term rewards to long-term efforts.

That would be one above-average positive result of Saturn to US natal Neptune. The other is Saturnian form being brought to - offered to - Neptunian dreams!

My negative interpretation would be something related to secret (Neptune) government (Saturn) being put into a more concrete form through the 'dreams' of the social tinkerers who are determined to implement their plans for a one-world-government.

Their schedule is moving right along, and Barack Obama's presidency is, sad to say, no exception.

Now this, from Information Clearing House:

"The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are, first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy, and second, the chronic terror among the rich, lest we get it." - Edward Dowling



This post prepared using America's symbolic 'Sibly' natal chart, July 4, 1776 5:10 pm LMT, Philadelphia, PA. The actual date or hour of Saturn to Neptune may be affected a little by which natal chart is used, but the transit's influence remains the same.